Discussion Board 3.2



Okay, let ‘s go to the questions, consider the following:

  1. What is a Repressive State Apparatus? Why does Althusser call it “repressive”? Can we explain his choice of words here. Give an example.

2. Let’s do the same for the Ideological State Apparatuses. What are they, how do they seem to work?

3. Important: this question will appear on our exam: How are the Repressive and Ideological State Apparatuses different from each other? What is the difference between the two?

4. Post an example of ideology. This could be a piece of writing, an image, video, pdf document, visual art, or music, clip from a movie. Next to your example, specify if this is an example of repressive or ideological apparatuses at work. I’ll start us of off by giving an example.


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Discussion board 3.2

  1. Repressive Apparatus is the ruling of sociology. It’s away to control society. It’s a strong forceable way to control, schools, the law and many other unions.
  2. The way ideological state apparatuses seems to work is by forcing people to do something they wouldn’t want. Is a way for society to obey laws and be taught to do certain things to be able to have a better outcome or position in life or in society.
  3. The difference between repressive and ideological is that repressive is more a strict physical way to control. Ideological is when people get brain washed into thinking certain things to control the way we view things to control the way we view things for example the news and social media.

Minerva Cerda

The repressive apparatus state is used to regulate the species. He utilizes the repressive because it regulates the independence of the nation. Instances encompass police, courts, and prisons which control you through the threat of violence. They use the fear of you being scared of the police because of your color. today’s democracies make you feel left out because of your skin color or where you came from or the language you speak.

2) Ideological State Apparatuses differences from the importance include schools, politics, and the total agencies. Instances encompass, politics conserving the importance by lending you an intention so you feel like you have some obligation towards the community you live in. Nonetheless, in today’s democracies, you have a choice between different parties.

3) Repressive Apparatus State intends for custody physically through violence and suspicion. Idealistic State Apparatuses control more psychologically through people’s minds and thought methods. For example through the media and schooling. They use media to get into people’s heads they make us scared of the police or education.

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Anjanie Krishnanan

1) The repressive apparatus state is a concept used to control the people. He uses the word repressive because, it restrains the freedom of the people. Examples include police, courts, and prisons which control you through the threat of violence.

2) Ideological State Apparatuses prevent change to the status quo and include schools, politics, and the mass media. Examples include, politics maintaining the status quo by giving you a choice so you feel like you have some responsibility towards the society you live in. However in today’s democracies you have a choice between barely distinguishable parties.

3) Repressive Apparatus State aim to control physically through violence and fear. Ideological State Apparatuses control more psychologically through people’s mind and thought processes. For example through the media and education.

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This is an example of repressive apparatus because police are aiming to control through violence and fear.

Sianna Velez – Discussion Board 3.2

  1. Repressive State Apparatus is a force that is used to control citizens. Althusser calls it “repressive” because it mainly uses repression to control citizens. An example of Repressive State Apparatus is imprisonment, cops, court, and the military. 

2. Ideological State Apparatus is used to convey the values and beliefs of the state. It uses schools, media, and churches to do this.  

3. Repressive state apparatuses uses physical force to put fear into citizens and get them on the state’s side. Ideological state apparatuses uses schools, churches, and media to influence citizens without physical force. 

4. Example of ideological state apparatus

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Ignacio on RSA and ISA

1. Repressive state Apparatus is an exclusive part of the government like police, the army, the prison system or the judiciary, that from Althusser’s point of view are meant to inhibit people from their individual freedoms, controlling society by fear. An example could be when protesting, people suffer from police brutality, because this type of actions is a disruption of the actual status quo.

2. Ideological State Apparatus is also a part of the government but not all of the time, it can be entities like schools, political groups o media conglomerates, religious groups, where they teach you to obey, and present situations where supposedly you have “options” and can “chose”, when in fact at the end is all part of the status quo.

3. The differences might be that the RSA tells you what not to do or how not to act, and what the consequences would be if you act against the guidelines that are implemented in the status quo, and, the ISA tells you what to think and how to obey the guidelines so you are a piece of the elitist groups to maintain their grasp on power.

4. Cancel/woke culture and the LGBT movement in America

Discussion 3.2 – SaiLungCash Jeung

1.The repressive State Apparatus is used by the government to exercise social control over its population. Althusser call it “repressive” because Repressive State Apparatus uses violence to make the people fearful and thus control the society. This system takes away the power and freedom of the people, and they pass the society Institutions: Police, courts or prisons use violence against the people to make the people fearful, so that it may be easier to control the society.

2.The job of Ideological State Apparatuses is to prevent changes to the status quo. It allows people to learn to obey authority and brainwash. And Ideological State Apparatuses appear in the media and education systems.

3.Repressive State Apparatus is to control people’s thoughts and behaviors through threats of violence. Most of them are methods used by the government and the state, while the Ideal State Apparatus is to consciously control people’s thoughts and make people identify with your thoughts.

4. 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests, Anti-Extradition Law Amendment Bill Movement. This is a repressive apparatuses.

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Repressive and Ideological State Apparatuses

1. A Repressive State Apparatus is a structure that controls behavior by weaponizing fear against us. It is called repressive because the existence of the apparatus (EG, prison) is a social deterrent to breaking the rules that are forced upon us as members of a community (EG, American citizens). The threat of violence or punishment is a threat to our well-being, so we fear it and mostly act within constructed rules to avoid that at all costs. For example, I may not want to pay taxes, but I do so because I fear the threat of legal and financial repercussions if the government finds out I have not paid them.

2. Ideological State Apparatuses play on our fear of being a member of a societal out group. We so want to have communities, be accepted, and be seen as normal, that we control our own actions to remain within the already acceptable range of behavior (the “status quo”). Here, we are trained by mechanisms like school what the community’s expectations are, and we are exposed to the threat of being kicked out of the group. We are taught that there are established social hierarchies that we must submit to in order to gain acceptance, and there is no room for criticism of the system or that authority because to criticize it would be to risk losing in-group privileges. 

3. While Repressive State Apparatuses are explicitly violent and motivate us through our own fear, Ideological State Apparatuses are insidious and teach social compliance through education and exposure to extant hierarchy.

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This scene from Mean Girls is an example of ideological apparatuses. There is a strict social hierarchy in place when Cady joins the school, and she desires to be a member of a group so badly that she complies with Janis’s requests that she infiltrate the more popular group. Eventually she ends up enjoying the popularity, and modifies her behavior even further in order to continue to fit in. This movie is all about social compliance and the lengths we will go to in order to appear normal, regardless of our self-interest.

DB 3.2

1.What is a Repressive State Apparatus? Why does Althusser call it “repressive”? Can we explain his choice of words here? Give an example.

The repressive state apparatus refers to the police, courts, prisons, and military. When the police and their specialized auxiliary teams “cannot control the situation,” they will directly intervene as an additional amount of pressure to suppress them. It also refers to the heads of state and the government above all this and administrative agencies. Which is mainly legal violence that the government would choose to do when thighs are out of control.

  1. Let’s do the same for the Ideological State Apparatuses. What are they, how do they seem to work?

The ideological state apparatus is the real material basis on which the “political unconscious” depends, is the territory for institutionalized discipline and legalized “production” of individuals, and a set of seemingly mild but violent social control tools.

  1. Important: this question will appear on our exam: How are the Repressive and Ideological State Apparatuses different from each other? What is the difference between the two?

There is only one repressive state apparatus, but there are many ideological state apparatuses. And the unified repressive state apparatus is entirely in the public domain; on the contrary, most of the ideological state apparatuses, which are decentralized, are part of the private domain. Churches, parties, labor unions, families, certain schools, most newspapers, various cultural speculations, etc., are all private.

  1. Post an example of ideology. This could be a piece of writing, an image, video, pdf document, visual art, or music, a clip from a movie. Next to your example, specify if this is an example of repressive or ideological apparatuses at work.

This is a photo of Black people in jail. I want to use it as an example of ideology that shows racism causes the innocents to be forced to go to jail, which is also an ideological apparatus.

DB 3.2/Ideological vs. Repressive State Apparatus

  1. repressive state apparatus is an organization that enforces punishments. The police force is an example of this. On a society level police often regulate and enforce the law and give consequence for those who do not follow it. 

2. Ideological state apparatuses, a term developed by Althusser, serves as a means to transmit values of the state. School for example tends to transmit ideas from the state to maintain wealth and class inequality.

3. The ideological state tends to leans toward organizations such schools, churches, the law and even families. These examples are groups oftentimes controlled by the individuals within it.

4. An example of Repressive State Apparatuses.

Gladys Tavera- D.B 3.2

  1. Ideology, according to Althusser, is an individual’s formation of views that serve the owning class. Ideology is formed via socialization, which determines who a person is based on their participation in society. Conservative politics, for example, is an ideology based on the belief that people can be distinguished by their abilities, talents, or possessions. Being “self-sufficient” or having a large sum of money is considered successful. The working class was regarded as sluggish and underachieving. Conservatives are reactive because they oppose any changes that might reduce inequality and encourage reform. 

2. According to Althusser, the state develops its own apparatus where it can make citizens subject to those apparatus willingly. The kinds of ISA then include education, media, religious institutions, family, law. They function differently in terms of the conformity they demand from the citizens to continue the division or creation of the ownership of capital and making people who will submit to the ideas of a particular production system. For, Althusser education is the most important ideological apparatus. It is because first it substitutes the role of the church and second it is through education where a class structure is built based on the idea of meritocracy and achievement while making conforming individuals.

3. According to Althusser, ideology is the creation of beliefs that benefit the owning class. Ideology is established through socialization, which shapes a person’s identity based on their social engagement. For example, conservative politics is built on the concept that people can be distinguished based on their abilities, talents, or possessions. It is regarded as successful to be “self-sufficient” or to have a substantial sum of money. Working-class people were thought to be lazy and underachieving. Conservatives are reacting as a result of their opposition to any changes that might reduce inequality and promote reform.

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