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a) Identify which discussion question you are answering in your comment by placing the relevant number at the start of your answer. For example:

2. Crime has often been used as a form of social control by…

4. Michelle Alexander’s argument about segregation…

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Respond to the following questions in the “Comment” box below:

  1. P. Williams writes in her essay, that the war on terror is a new type of a war. What’s new about it, how is it different from traditional wars?
  2. In what ways does the “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights? Which amendment(s) does it seem to violate and why?
  3. What about “Sneek and Peek” Warrants?

23 thoughts on “Discussion Board 9.2

  1. 1. Its new because civil measures are put into place that are considered unconstitutional when pursuing a terrorist such as not giving them the same basic rights, its different from traditional wars because we are more discreet about terrorist actions that we take such as secret surveillance.
    2. The “roving wiretaps” violates the bill of rights because it allows the innocent people being searched without a warrant. This violates the fourth amendment because in order to be searched they need a warrant.
    3. The “sneak and peek” violates as well because being suspected of a crime means that they still need a warrant for searching and this law allows them to do it without asking first.

    1. On Q1: yes, but also what else? It is a new type of a war, because it is a war between a government and a civilian enemy (i.e. the terrorist is a member of a political organization, that is not a government), so the challenge is to know: when does the war end, how do we know we’ve won the war (or lost)?

      Q2: excellent.

      Q3: which Amendment seems to be violated here?

  2. 1- Unlike traditional wars, war on terror does not have a clear beginning and an end. Terror wars are more discreet.
    2- Roving wiretaps violates the 4th amendment right because the government can not conduct a search without a warrant.
    3- Sneak & peek also violates the 4th amendment because it leads into privacy violations.

  3. Question #1). P. Williams writes in her essay, that the war on terror is a new type of war. What’s new about it, how is it different from traditional wars?

    Answer: War on terror is a new type of war because there has been a new approach in fighting the war on teror. It is different from traditional wars because it is more discreet.

    Question#2). In what ways does the “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights? Which amendment(s) does it seem to violate and why

    Answer: The “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights the government conduct a search in someone’s house without a warrant. It is a violation of the Forth Amendment without obtaining a warrant or probable cause.

    Question#3). What about “Sneek and Peek” Warrants?

    Answer: The “Sneek and Peek” warrant violate the right of a person since it is act upon without consent of the individual. In other words it is a violates the Forth Amendment.

  4. 1) Despite the apparent factor of a traditional war that is difficult, and long-lasting, its fundamental aspect is physical violence. Once continuously aimed at both sides, it will come to an end until one can not possibly continue. However with a war on terror, you can’t necessarily depict when it has started, nor when it will end. Although violence is included in a war of terror, the primary element of its continuous factor is a behavioral issue; it’ll impact others not only physically, but emotionally and mentally, leading it to reveal its discreteness.

    2) The “Roving Wiretaps” does in fact violate the bill of rights, more predominantly the fourth amendment, because the search of one’s home can not be conducted without a written permission from a court of law.

    3) The “sneak and peek” warrant is ultimately overbearing because permission is given by a supreme authority of the party, who is commonly irrelevant to the case, to have the ability to enter one’s home without consent. It is a violation of privacy, and the consequences of a mistake that is likely to occur is detrimental.

  5. 1. The war on terror is a new type of war, this is because traditional wars always had a beginning and end. The new type of war is limited. Unlike two countries fighting, now a days a tourist can be anyone and the war for them never ends.
    2. The “Roving wiretaps” seem to violate the Bill of rights in the Fourth Amendment because you can not search private properties without a warrant form the court. Without a search warrant it is a violation of privacy.
    3. “Sneak Peek” warrants seems to also violate the fourth amendment. If authority suspect of a crime, they’ll search private homes without a consent. Violation of privacy is proven.

  6. 1.P. Williams writes in her essay, that the war on terror is a new type of a war. What’s new about it, how is it different from traditional wars?
    Whats new about the war being a new type of war is that the most common type of wars has a beginning and end , the war we have is one we don’t know when its gonna end , when we don’t know when it started.

    2.In what ways does the “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights? Which amendment(s) does it seem to violate and why?
    The roving wiretraps violate the bill of rights because they are searching someones home without a search warrant which is a violation of privacy.

    3.What about “Sneek and Peek” Warrants?Answer:
    The “Sneek and Peek” warrant violate the right of a person since it is act upon without consent of the individual. It also violates a persons privacy.

  7. 1- War of terror is a new type of war because it has a new approach to war vs the other traditional ways being more careful.

    2-The “Roving Wiretaps” does violate the bill of rights because a person no longer has their right once someone searches them without a warrant so they loose that freedom . It becomes a violation of privacy as well.

    3-The “sneak and peek” warrant does violate the right of a person because there is no consent from the individual which violates a individuals privacy .

  8. 1. War on terror is different from a traditional war because it has a different approach it being more discreet.

    2. The Roving wiretaps violates the 4th amendment because it allows people to be searched without a warrant.

    3. The sneak and peek also violates the 4th amendment because it violates the privacy of a person without consent.

  9. Edmin Alicea
    10/25/20

    1. P. Williams writes in her essay, that the war on terror is a new type of a war. What’s new about it, how is it different from traditional wars?

    Answer: What’s new about it is types of civil measure’s are being lead to consideration of unconstitutional when on a pursuit of a terrorist such as not giving basic rights. Its different because its discreet that authorities take such as high surveillance.

    2.In what ways does the “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights? Which amendment(s) does it seem to violate and why?
    Answer: Roving Wiretaps is a violation to the Bill of Rights, which will lead to innocent victims being searched without warrants. It includes another violation to the 4th amendment ( Order to be searched a warrant is required )

    3.What about “Sneek and Peek” Warrants?
    Answer: Sneek and Peek is a violation because if being suspected of a crime it means that a warrant is still needed for searching and the law allows authorities to do it without further asking.

  10. 1.P. Williams writes in her essay, that the war on terror is a new type of a war. What’s new about it, how is it different from traditional wars?
    The war on terror is a new type of war compared to traditional since there’s no specific way of telling how long the war will last.
    2.In what ways does the “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights?Which amendment(s) does it seem to violate and why?
    The “Roving Wiretaps” of the patriot act seems to violate the bill of rights because it violates the fourth amendment of not having a warrant. Violating people’s privacy and property.
    3.What about “Sneek and Peek” Warrants?
    “Sneak and Peek” Warrants violates the fourth amendment as well due to violating someone’s privacy without any evidence to hold against them for warranty but just because of suspicion.

  11. 1. The war on terror is a new type of war. Unlike other conflicts, including conventional war, where individuals confronted each other with weapons to solve their differences, the war on terrorism is the war of the mind. Anyone becomes an enemy. The hardest part of the current war against terror is talking about facts rather than fear. The war against terror is multifaceted.

    2. Roving Wiretap is a wiretap used to follow a surveillance target. For example, a specific target may cheat surveillance by throwing away the phone of moving to another city or state or using any other method. There will be a need for another surveillance order. However, a roving wiretap allows the surveillance team to track down a target whether they move to another state or city or use any other communication technology. In most cases, the justice department has long complained about the separate court’s requirement to offer authorization for each device used by the target for an ongoing investigation ranging from a computer terminal authorization to a cellphone. This is a provision of the patriot act, which allows roving wiretaps against a suspect, especially spies and terrorists. According to civil liberty groups, this part of the Patriot Act violates individuals’ privacy rights who come into casual contact with the suspect. It, therefore, conflicts with the fourth amendment of the United States constitution.

    3. A sneak and peek search warrant is a warrant that offers relevant authorities such as the police physical entry into private premises without the owner’s knowledge and conducts a search. In most cases, it requires a break, but the law enforcement officer is not required to take anything from the premise. It is also referred to as the covert entry search warrant or surreptitious entry warrants. These warrants are generally beneficial for investigations against illegal drug manufacturing since they allow the investigative team to search the premise for chemicals another drug paraphernalia. Critics argue that the investigators have the power to conduct secret searches for counterterror and counterespionage probes. Therefore, sneak and peek warrants should be limited to cases where the investigator can jeopardize the investigation if they present the physical warrant. However, the sneak and peek warrants conflict with the fourth amendment of the bill of rights, which protects the citizens against unreasonable searches and seizure of private properties.

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