Discussion 3.2

1.What is a Repressive State Apparatus? Why does Althusser call it “repressive”? Can we explain his choice of words here. Give an example.

-Based on Althusser, a state’s institutions to preserve social order and enforcing its authority by force and coercion are known as a Repressive State Apparatus (RSA). It is’repressive’, according to Althusser, because it relies on oppression, punishment, and force instead of reason or consent. This demonstrates how awful these systems are at silencing opposition and limiting individual rights. The army, the police, and the prison system are a few examples of RSAs.

2. Let’s do the same for the Ideological State Apparatuses. What are they, how do they seem to work?

-Societies such as the church, schools, family, media, political system, and creative efforts are examples of Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs). ISAs operate primarily through ideology, in contrast to the Repressive State Apparatus, which operates largely through violence. They appear in media, religious settings, and cultural domains and are diverse and spread out. Both ideology and violence are used by all state apparatuses, whether they are repressive or ideological.

3.How are the Repressive and Ideological State Apparatuses different from each other? What is the difference between the two?

-The main techniques used by Repressive State Apparatuses (RSAs) to maintain order are oppression and violence. They include of organizations like the army and the police. On the other hand, ideology and influence are the means by which Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs) function. Through organizations like the media and schools, ISAs spread current views and values. The main difference between them is how they work: ISAs employ ideology, whereas RSAs use compulsion.

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This is an example ideological apparatuses on how they control people’s view by newspaper.

Understanding Althusser’s Theory: Repressive and Ideological State Apparatuses

  1. Define a Repressive State Apparatus (RSA). Why Does Althusser Call It “Repressive”?
    A Repressive State Apparatus is an institution that exerts control through direct methods like violence, punishment, or coercion. Althusser calls it “repressive” because it functions through coercion to uphold the rule of the ruling class. Examples include the police, army, prisons, and courts that suppress resistance and enforce laws through arrests, physical compulsion, or legal sanctions.
  2. What are Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs)? How do they function?
    Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs) are institutions that condition beliefs and values to ensure control without the use of coercion. Rather than physical coercion, they condition people to believe in the ruling ideology as “natural.” They are institutions like schools, media, religion, and the family that replicate political ideologies and social norms. Schools, for instance, condition discipline and obedience, so that individuals embrace authority and economic institutions without hesitation.
  3. Distinction Between Repressive and Ideological State Apparatuses (RSA vs. ISA)
    The main distinction is the manner in which they take control. RSAs utilize force, i.e., police arresting protesters, whereas ISAs employ persuasion, i.e., the media marketing capitalism as the ideal system. RSAs function via punishment, whereas ISAs impact ideology so individuals obey voluntarily without necessitating overt repression. Governments employ both concurrently—force where ideology breaks down, and ideology to avert the necessity for force.
  4. Ideology and Classification Example (RSA or ISA)
    A school oath that instills patriotism and nationalism is an ISA, as it builds beliefs from an early age. A state crackdown on a protest is an RSA, as it employs physical force to repress opposition. Both operate to uphold control, one through persuasion and the other through repression.

Aliah Diaz- DB 3.2

1. A Repressive State Apparatus (RSA) includes institutions that maintain control by enforcing rules and ensuring people adhere to the dominant ideologies in society. Althusser calls them “repressive” because they play a key role in keeping societal order. An example could be a school principal making sure all students follow the school rules and behave properly. The principal helps maintain order and ensures everyone follows the guidelines set by the school. It’s like a system that keeps things in check and running smoothly. 

2. Sure! Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs) are like different parts of society that shape how we think and act without us really noticing. They include things like schools, churches, TV, and even our families. These places teach us what’s “normal” and what to believe in. 

3. Repressive State Apparatuses and Ideological State Apparatuses are both ways society keeps things in order, but they do it differently. Repressive State Apparatuses, like the police or military, use force or the threat of force to make sure people follow the rules. They can arrest you or use physical power to keep control. Ideological State Apparatuses, on the other hand, work through ideas and culture. They include things like schools, media, churches, and families. These institutions shape how we think and what we believe is normal. Instead of using force, they influence our beliefs and values so that we follow the rules on our own.

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Yanele Linval – DB 3.2

  1. A Repressive State Apparatus (RSA) includes institutions like the police and military that maintain control through force. Althusser calls it “repressive” because it uses coercion to suppress dissent and uphold the ruling class’s power. For example, police enforcing laws and arresting protesters exemplifies this idea, as it helps maintain the existing social order.
  2. Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs) are institutions like schools, churches, media, and family that shape people’s beliefs and values to maintain the ruling class’s power. They work by subtly influencing how individuals think and behave, promoting ideologies that support the existing social order. For example, schools teach not just academic subjects but also social norms and values that reinforce the status quo, making people more likely to accept and perpetuate the current system.
  3. Repressive State Apparatuses (RSAs) use force, like the police and military, to maintain control and suppress rebellion. Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs), on the other hand, like schools and media, shape beliefs and values to support the status quo through ideology. Essentially, RSAs rely on coercion, while ISAs rely on persuasion.
  4. An example of ideology is the ‘American Dream’, which promotes the belief that anyone can achieve success through hard work and determination. It’s reinforced by schools and media, shaping people’s aspirations in society. 

Aamina Jabbar 3.2

1) According to Althusser, a Repressive State Apparatus includes institutions like the police, military, courts, and prisons that use force to enforce laws and keep social order. He calls them “repressive” because they rely on violence or the threat of it to maintain power. Unlike institutions that shape our beliefs, RSAs use physical power to stop dissent and make people follow rules. For example, the police arrest lawbreakers, and the military might be used to stop uprisings. Althusser uses “repressive” to highlight how these institutions forcefully keep the ruling class in control, especially when just influencing beliefs isn’t enough.

2) An Ideological State Apparatus as Althusser explains, includes institutions like schools, churches, the media, and families that shape people’s beliefs, values, and behaviors to match the interests of those in power. Unlike repressive state apparatuses, ISAs don’t use force or violence to maintain control. Instead, they influence individuals by embedding certain ideas in daily life. For instance, schools teach not just academic subjects but also social norms and values that support the current social order. Similarly, the media often portrays the world in a way that upholds the status quo. ISAs work subtly and continuously to make people accept the existing power structures, often without them even realizing it, by teaching them how to think, act, and see themselves in society.

3) Repressive State Apparatuses  and Ideological State Apparatuses are different mainly in how they keep control. RSAs, like the police and military, use force or the threat of it to make sure people follow laws and maintain order. They rely on physical power to stop any opposition. In contrast, ISAs, such as schools, churches, and the media, shape people’s beliefs and values to align with the interests of those in power. They work by subtly influencing everyday life, making people accept the current social order without even realizing it. So, while RSAs use direct force, ISAs maintain control through influencing thoughts and behaviors.

4) A good example of a movie that showcases ideology is “The Matrix.” In this film, the Matrix itself represents an Ideological State Apparatus. The simulated reality of the Matrix is designed to control the minds of humans, making them believe they are living normal lives while, in reality, they are being used as energy sources. This aligns with the concept of ISAs because the control is maintained through manipulation of beliefs and perceptions rather than direct force. The characters are made to accept their reality without questioning it, illustrating how ideology works to keep people in line with the interests of the ruling entities.

Samid Sadeem Rahman

  1. Repressive State Apparatus (RSA)
    The Repressive State Apparatus refers to those institutions in society that enforce social order and control via force or compulsion. These include the police, the military, prisons, and the judicial system. Althusser calls them “repressive” because these institutions primarily function through the use of physical force or violence in an effort to control society and compel obedience to the laws and norms laid down by the state. That is to say, they are the weapons of suppressing resistances and maintaining dominations. Example:
A police force arresting a protestor who is seen as a threat to the state’s interests could be seen as the RSA in action. The police use force or the threat of force to maintain social order and discourage activities that challenge state authority.
  2. Ideological State Apparatuses (ISA)
    Ideological State Apparatuses include those very institutions and practices whereby control through ideology is ensured-the shaping of beliefs, values, and norms. These are schools, churches, the media, and even family structures. They function through people’s consciousness, wherein dominant ideologies that support power relations in society are fostered. The ISAs do not use direct force but, instead, inculcate subtly ways of thinking and acting.
    Example:
A school system that teaches students the values of hard work and discipline, without accounting for broader social inequalities that may make success impossible for some to attain, is an example of the ISA. It doesn’t use force, but it indoctrinates the students with the idea that anyone can succeed if he tries hard enough. Therefore, this is a promoter of the certain ideological perspective.
  3. Difference Between RSA and ISA The most critical difference between the Repressive State Apparatus and the Ideological State Apparatus lies in how this latter one secures such control. While the RSA usually applies itself through direct physical force, police, military forces, and others, the ISA shapes the belief and perception of the people through schools and mass media. More simply put:
  • The RSA acts through coercion: using force to maintain control.
  • The ISA acts through ideology: changing beliefs and values to maintain control. 4. There is a scene in the movie The Pursuit of Happiness where the protagonist Chris Gardner, despite his struggles in life, gets through it with hard work and determination. The theme of this movie sends a message that anyone can “make it” in America if they try hard enough, even in the face of extreme adversity. This would be an example of an Ideological State Apparatus at work. The film reinforces the dominant ideology in capitalism-that success is determined by personal effort and never considers social structures, class, or systemic inequalities.

    Jada Black Discussion 3.2

    1. A repressive state apparatus refers to the institutions of the state that force order through control. RSA’s use physical force , legal penalties and other forms of coercion to ensure obedience. For example, when a large public protest breaks out, the police acts as an RSA by using excessive force to calm down the crowd.
    2. Ideological state apparatus are institutions that use ideas , education, and cultural practices to reinforce the ideology of a society. Families are such a great an example ,because there are many traditions families create that follow many generations as time goes on. Also religious institutions , such as churches. They promote social ethics that Aline with ideology. ISAs work by circulating ideas that seem natural or common. For example , schools might teach history in a way that highlights unity. This may shape how students see the world.
    3. The main difference between RSAs and ISAs are their method of control. RSAs operate through direct force while ISAs shapes peoples beliefs, values, and perceptions.
    4. Example of ideology :

    This is an example of ideological apparatus.

    Richard Williams- Discussion board 3.2

    1. A repressive state apparatus is what controls you through force or the threat of violence. This includes use of police, courts, and prisons. I believe Althusser called it repressive, to depict the act of using power, force, or violence to control and restrict limitations on individuals freedoms. An example of this would be the prison system. The prison system is used to penalize and detain those who have broken a law, serving as a structure to maintain control and repress those who challenge the states authority.
    2. Ideological state apparatuses are used to prevent change to the state of affairs. These organizations use ideology to sustain control by shaping people’s belief’s, values, and principles without the use of direct force. For example, the education system plays a key factor in how people envision society, authority, and social norms. This also includes maintaining social order by shaping individuals identities and positions in the world with the use of regulations, schedule adherence, and obedience.
    3. RSA’s and ISA’s differ from each other by their control mechanisms. Aforementioned, RSA uses force or the threat of violence in order to subdue those who defy the states authority or break the law. An example of using physical means would be, the prison system physically detains and confines those who have been convicted of a crime. ISA on the other hand, uses ideology to structure values and beliefs. For example, schools promote the social norms and beliefs of authoritative figures, while the media perpetuates narratives around political and cultural ideologies.
    4. The image below represents Ideological state apparatuses. It shows how corporate influence and conformity influence society. ISA’s prohibit people from challenging or working to alter the structures that sustain control within the hands of a powerful bunch.

    Ghufran Bairouti – The repressive Concept.

    1- Althusser uses the word “repressive” because the RSA defines it through force rather than persuasion. Such as schools, churches, media, and families, which shape ideology and beliefs through cultural and ideological influence, the RSA works through direct coercion and punishment. A clear example of an RSA is the police force cracking down on protest movements. For instance, when workers organize a protest for unfair laws, the police might use tear gas, or violence to break up the demonstrations. His forceful intervention ensures the continuation of the existing economic and political order.

    2-Althusser calls it “ideological” because it works through beliefs and values rather than brute force. People internalize the ruling ideology, often without realizing it, and thus willingly participate in their subjugation. They work through persuasion and internalization, meaning that people come to accept their social roles and inequalities as normal. For example, The media often reinforces dominant ideologies by shaping public opinion, defining what is normal or acceptable, and marginalizing alternative perspectives Families often teach traditional gender roles, obedience, and respect, reinforcing existing power structures.

    3-The Repressive operates through force, using institutions like the police, military, prisons, and courts to enforce obedience. It functions through direct, physical repression, ensuring that those who challenge the existing power structure face consequences such as arrest, surveillance, or violence. The Ideological State Apparatuses, on the other hand, maintains control through ideology and persuasion, using institutions like schools, media, religion, and family to shape people’s beliefs and values.

    The Ideological State Apparatuses condition individuals to conform willingly, making repression less necessary, while Repressive intervenes when ideological control fails, using punishment to maintain order. For example, schools teach obedience and individual responsibility, leading people to believe that poverty results from laziness. However, if students protest unfair policies, the police might suppress their dissent. This combination of ideological manipulation and physical repression ensures that power remains in the hands of the ruling elite.

    4- The ads, often shown through television, social media, and magazines, promote the idea that beauty equals thinness, youth, and perfection, influencing people to conform to these unrealistic standards. Over time, individuals internalize these ideas and may feel pressure to look a certain way, buy certain products, or change their appearance to fit the dominant ideology of beauty.

    Jayleen Abreu                  DB 3.2                                                                                                                    

    What is a Repressive State Apparatus? Why does Althusser call it “repressive”? Can we explain his choice of words here? Give an example.

    A Repressive State Apparatus (RSA) refers to institutions that enforce power and control primarily through force, coercion, and repression. According to Althusser, the state uses RSAs to maintain order and enforce the ruling ideology, often relying on physical violence or the threat of it. These institutions include military, police, prisons, and the judicial system, all of which can force people into obedience through punishment or intimidation. Althusser calls it “repressive” because these institutions use direct means to control people-whether thorugh laws, arrests, or physical force. He makes this distinction to highlight the tole of state violence in maintaining the status quo. Unlike ideological control, which is subtle and based on persuasion, repression works through explicit dominance. 

    An example of an RSA would be law enforcement’s role suppressing protests. If people gather to demand social change – like the Civil Rights Movement or Black Lives Matter protests – the police may use tear gas, mass arrests, or even violence to disperse them. This is a clear example of how RSAs function to keep the existing power structure intact. 

    What are Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs), and how do they seem to work?

    Unlike Repressive State Apparatuses, Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs) operate through persuasion rather than force. They shape how people thinkg, behave, and perceive reality in a way that reinforces the dominant ideology of society. Althusser identifies institutions such as schools, churches, media, family, and cultural systems such as schools, churches, media, family, and cultural systems (like literature and movies) as ISAs:

    ISAs work by instilling beliefs and values that make people willingly accept the status quo. Instead of using force, they shape people’s worldview in ways that benefit those in power. For example, schools teach obedience, respect for authority, and the idea that success come from individual hard work rather then systemic privilege. Religion, too, can be used ideologically – by promoting ideas like “everything happens for a reason” or “accept your place in life” which discourage people from challenging oppression.

    A great example of an ISA in action is mainstream media’s portrayal of wealth and poverty. Many TV shows and news programs frame poverty as a personal failure rather than a structural issue. This encourages people to blame individuals from their economic struggles rather than questioning economic policies or corporate greed. 

    How are Repressive and Ideological State Apparatuses different from each other? What Is the difference between the two? 

    The main difference is between RSAs and ISAs is how they enforce power. 

    Repressive State Apparatuses (RSAs) rely on force, punishment, and direct control. They function through institutions like the police, the military, courts, and prisons, which can legally harm, imprison, or kill individuals who do not comply with the dominant system.

    Ideological State Apparatuses (ISAs) function more subtly by shaping beliefs, values, and consciousness. Instead of using violence, they maintain control by influencing education, religion, media, and vulture to ensure that people willingly accept and internalize the ruling ideology. 

    A key difference is that RSAs operate openly and visibly – if someone is arrested, beaten, or censored, the repression is clear. ISAs work behind the scene, shaping people’s thoughts so they don’t even realize they are being influenced. For example, imagine a protest against corporate corruption. If the police arrest and beat protestors, that is an RSA in action. If the media then portrays the protestors as violent anarchists, discouraging public sympathy, that is an ISA at work. The first uses force; the second manipulates perception. 

    Example of Ideology/specify it represents repressive or ideological apparatuses 

    One example of an ideological apparatus at work is the “American Dream” narrative often promoted in movies and media. Films like The Pursuit of Happiness (2006) emphasize the idea that anyone, no matter how poor, can succeed through hard work and determination. This reinforced the idea that systemic inequality isn’t real or doesn’t matter – that failure is a personal issue rather than a societal one. This example represents an Ideological State Apparatus (ISA) because it persuades people to believe in a meritocratic system, even when real-world economic conditions show that wealth is often inherited, and opportunities are not equally distributed. By promoting this ideology, the media discourages people from questioning or resisting economic inequality. A Repressive State Apparatus (RSA) example could be the use of riot police during labor strikes. When workers organize for better to break up strikes, sometimes using tear gas, arrests, or physical force. This is a direct physical repression of dissent and serves to maintain corporate and state power.