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Responses to the three videos about different approaches to typography (Week 1)

3 Typography videos

Font Men
In this video, it was interesting that two men decided to make their company together. They said they love this work and it is fun but also it is really hard. I found that letters “H”, “O” and “D” are the decision about the weigh, about the width, the serif and spacing, tradition weigh of the thick to thin. Also, the most surprising is that typeface is made by living designers today.
Mike Langley
Mike Langley loves the old, he doesn’t like the new. He claims that letters are human feelings and no two letters are going to be same. He says that mistake and profession are interesting. I agree with him because the painting by hand more interesting to look the designer works than created by science.
Dan Rhatigan on Ryman Eco
He says a good typeface is expressing that a kind of personality for someone who work with and reponse to. Ryman Eco is a typeface design to minimize the surface area of every letters and it is a font that trying to save the link.

Comments

Font Men: This video gives an insight on how difficult and the process of creating a typeface. The idea that the many of the of typefaces that was created but a good chunk of it doesn’t work in different kinds of content as if the typefaces speak a language really interest me. It’s really intriguing to see how long it takes to create a typeface because of the process of deciding the design of it such as the spacing, weight, serifs and so on.

Mike Langley: This short video follows around Mike Langley telling us his passion for art and typography. His emotional connection with the craft and the traditional way of doing it (by hand) rather currently, most artist do it digitally. The way he describes how the traditional style of art creates an long lived work and the lettering makes it more human really showed me how different styles can affect an individual.

Dan Rhatigan on Ryman Eco: This short video follows around a Dan Rhatigan who created a new font, “Ryman Eco”, creates an illusion of a fully filled letter that saves more ink than a considerable amounts of fonts do. The interesting part of this video for me is how certain techniques like spacing could lead to stop some environmental issues such as using less plastic.

Responses to three videos reflecting different approaches to Typography

“Font Men”: I thought this video was a little interesting. The two type designers in the video, Jonathan Hoefler and Tobias Frere-Jones explained how to go about when designing new typefaces. They initially had the same idea regarding the process of creating them. You have to consider many elements such as size, spacing, width, and length. There are also other things to take in as well like italics, weights, small capitals and having each group work together in a dependable way. Frere-Jones mentioned that the field for working with typefaces was not as big in the early 1990’s compared to how it is now. I liked how both him and Hoefler described how they were either curious of where these different typefaces came from or wanting to develop their own style of font.

“Mikey Langley, Sign Painter”: This video should a different approach when combating typography. Unlike the last video with the two type designers, this one featured somebody painting variations of typefaces. The painter’s name was Mike Langley and throughout the video he talked about how he preferred doing on hands work over digital. As Langley was narrating his thoughts, he was shown painting the typefaces on a metallic looking truck. I thought it was interesting that he was able to perfectly painted the size and weight that he needed in order to develop the logo for “Vassilaros & Sons”. I would assume that it would be difficult perfecting the sizes of each letter or number on different parts of the vehicle, especially in the smaller spaces.

“Dan Rhatigan on Ryman Eco”: So what I got out this final video is that the printer, Dan Rhatigan cares more about the less use of ink while still establishing his font style. The style that Rhatigan uses is called Ryman Eco. Based on his description, this typeface design is supposed to minimize each letter’s surface area yet reduces the amount of ink being used. He further goes on about it saying that it gives out the illusion of fully filled letters. I thought this style was very nice, but abstract as well due the amount of lines require for each letter. There was one example he showed off of his computer show casing a lowercase g utilizing six lines to fit the size and length of the letter. Also, I noticed that there weren’t any small sizes with this particular typeface. In the video, Rhatigan stated that he still wants to find other ways to improve Ryman Eco. Hopefully, he can find ways to make it smaller as well for the negative eye in regards to reading if he decides to publish something. I still believe this typeface is good for title covers.

videos comments by Erick Fiallos

Font Men: I really enjoyed this video in the way of how two persons with kind of the same basic idea of a new font were actually capable of made that idea a big boom, and create something new and genuine in the aspect of something that actually have been existing since thousands of years ago. The way of how their simple idea became so commercialized is amazing that they had to have a whole new team working with that idea.

The Sign Painter: This video has something special, the way mike transit their feelings when he do their art makes you feel that new is not always better or the best option, and the fact that he do his art by hand makes it so original and classic that truly is the most creative of all the 3 videos.

Ryman Eco: And finally the video that probably is the future of the print texts, this idea of saving ink and the world with using font that are divided in small part are just incredible, if print text still being a thing in the future, well this is how i will be. i believe that is probably not a big deal but imagine that everybody start doing that, and do not forget the fact that the font style using here is just unbelievable, from another planet.

Typography Video Response

Jonathan Hoefler and Tobias Frere-Jones in “Font Men” give a new meaning to how typefaces can be commercialize and easily accessible to the general public. For someone who has no experience in this field, they explain the process from creation to production very understandable way. What I enjoyed most about this video was the idea of using technology to create something that has been always considered so traditional, while having a very creative and expressive approach to it. In the same manner, Mike Langley in “The Sign Painter” has a very creative vision for his art, but in a more stylistic way. I loved the idea of bringing typography back to basics and giving it a new take, in a world that is constantly changing and always finding new and advanced ways to do things. His philosophy about typographic work as an art and giving it a very personal approach is what I found the most interesting. I love that he is conscious of the idea that each time he paints something, it will never be exactly the same as the last and the signs impermanence being part of the art. With Dan Rhatigan in “Dan Rhatigan on Ryman Eco” his creative vision for his company was brought on by an ecologically friendly way. I thought it was very compelling that he considered the harsh effects printmaking has on the planet, knowing how sort term prints can have a big impact on our environment. 

Video Comments

Font Men: I found it interesting how these two guys who have both have a different focus, but the same idea, work together to create new fonts. I like the idea that there is not enough fonts and there will never be too many fonts. They were not expecting their company to grow how it did, however they seemed surprised when bringing up how their staff shares their same belief in regards to the creation of fonts. Where it is hard to start from scratch, but fun.

Mike Langley: This video interested me the most, because he is a sign painter that does his work by hand. Unlike the other two he is out painting on a truck. He implemented at least 3 fonts onto the truck and he did it by hand. I like how he says he is attracted to the human feel of the things he does. He likes mistakes because it says it was created by a human.

Dan Rhatigan: Like Rhatigan said, the idea of saving ink through his font is a small gesture. I believe that although small, it carries a big message. It will not solve the worlds problems but it is definitely a step in the right direction. I find it interesting how I believed fonts were mainly for expression but he is able to use it as a means to save the earth.

Giulia Feleppa Comment

Starting from the fact that I found all three videos extremely interesting and inspiring, it is fascinating to see that behind each single letter of a typeface there is a meticulous work made by a single or an entire group of people. How typefaces are created according to the content and context in which they could stand.

Moreover, it is interesting to see how typography is used for different goals. Hoefler and Frere-Jones company creates a variety of nice and functional typefaces, already available or personalized onces. Their typefaces transmit ideas and concepts, mostly used and sold to big companies. On the other hand, Mike Langley goal is to express the personality of few clients and their philosophy. His work is not meant to be used by different clients all over the world and over the years, but to be authentic and unique as his clients are. Ryman Eco, instead, not only embraces the readability and the personality that a font should have but it goes behind. Dan Rhatigan work was born to reduce the use of ink and the waste of cartridges in the environment, to have a minor impact on the ecosystem, now and in the future.

While H&FJ Company and Mike Langley purpose is to sell or satisfy a big or small group of clients in a short or long term, Dan Rhatigan uses Typography to encourage sustainability and maybe to inspire future generations to create environment friendly fonts. Hoping that Mike Langley would use ecofriendly paints for his work, do you think ecologically friendly fonts could really make a significant difference? Wouldn’t the use of less paper be more effective?

Efrain Mendez Typography videos

Font Men
In the first video, Font Men I learned about the design process of making new fonts and
how font typeface grew in the 90s. In the video Tobias Jones explains how in the 90s he would
often receive font catalogs in the mails and would look at them as soon as he got them and
discuss his opinions on them with his friend and former competitor Jonathan Hoefler. Jones also
explained how back in the 90s there wasn’t many companies creating font type faces which is
what inspired him and Hoefler to create their own company together. As they began their own
company, they soon got a team of people to expand their company and produce more font
typefaces. Later in the video they talk about the design process they go through when creating a
new font which fascinated me. It fascinated me because it seemed so simple and I never
considered where to start when designing a font. The way they began creating a font was with
the letters H and O because H is a square lettering and O is a round Lettering. With this design
process it makes it simple to design a font for the whole alphabet because the rest of the alphabet
is a combination of both round and square lettering. Another thing that interest me is how they
were able to create and use that same font within the same day.
The Sign Painter
In the second video, The Sign Painter I listened to Mike Langley express his passion for
painting and his work on sign paintings for shops. It was pleasant to hear about Langley express
his love and passion for painting as well as intriguing hearing him talk about how his work feels
like art more than work and likes to paint signs for shops because of the imperfections of the
lettering when painting the sign. Langley makes good points about how when painting no letter
will be the same and how the imperfections of the lettering is what makes the sign unique. I also
agree that although painting signs can be hard work it is a true art form because of how unique it
is to paint the lettering rather than creating it on a computer. In addition to that I agree with his
stance about going into shops and supporting more shops that hire painters to create their signs
rather than ones that use digital designs.
Dan Rhatigan on Ryman Eco
In the third video, Dan Rhatigan on Ryman Eco Dan Rhatigan speaks about the
importance of having and creating different typefaces and how to make them more eco- friendly.
Rhatigan makes some interesting points about the reason there are a variety of typefaces which
are to give a personality to the letters as well as make an impression on people when interacting
with it. In this case I agree with the Rhatigan’s reasoning on the reason there are a broad range of
typefaces. Rhatigan also makes a very thoughtful reason as to how certain typefaces are printed
on paper and how this has somewhat of an impact on the environment. The typeface he creates
enforces all of his reasonings and provides an answer on how to create a font that looks full when
printed but is not in its design. This font not only is unique artistically, but it also is much more
ink efficient. This makes the font eco-friendlier because it uses less ink when printed saving both
ink and plastic which is used to contain the ink. I believe we will see more fonts like this in the
future and is the start to a design model when creating fonts.

Approaches to Typography

The video that I found more interesting is the second one, where Mike Langley, a Sign pinter, talks about why he likes working with painting lettering. The comparison that he did about lettering being similar to human Feelings and how the imperfection and mistakes make it more interesting, made me realize that each font has a personality and that it attracts and makes people respond in different ways. This idea connects to what Dan Rhatigan expressed about the needs of having new fonts; By creating new fonts, the possibilities to show new ideas can be infinite.
On the side note, knowing how much time a group of people spend to create a new font is impressive, and makes me want to learn more about typography; who knows, maybe I’ll be part of the creation of a new font family.

Marisa Croce – video comments

In reference to the video “Font Men,” I find it fascinating that so much patience and focus is required to create a typeface. “Every decision has an implication,” which makes this seem more like a science than an art. Or perhaps the perfect marriage of art and science? The final video about Ryman Eco also gave me this impression when Rhatigan went over his process of analysis, experimentation, and evaluation. He even uses the term “hypothesis” at one point.

The short film of Mike Langley is the only video that focuses solely on the visceral aspects of lettering. He prefers small flaws over perfection and values the emotions that can be solicited through hand-painting. It is interesting to think about why a certain practice remains in society even though its more-practical replacement has already been invented & produced. This artform must still be serving a purpose, though certainly not the purpose of feasibility. Somehow it fulfills the emotional (rather than logical) needs of the audience.

On another note, I was very surprised and a little disappointed that all three videos featured only men. I was always under the impression that graphic design is one of the few industries that isn’t male-dominated. After watching these videos, however, I did a quick google search and found that few women in this field occupy the upper tiers. This was disappointing to discover.