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Response 11

This week we looked at two different videos. In The Abortion Divide we had the chance to see the fight over abortion through the stories of four different women struggling with their own unplanned pregnancies. In the other we looked at Hobby Lobby and how the debate between whether private businesses should basically hold this right to be religious. 

I would like to first start with Servine’s post I absolutely loved it not because of the wording but the word people. I think it is important especially in todays times to acknowledge that not just women can get pregnant anyone with a uterus can get pregnant, people. Secondly they are as the post says not impregnating themselves which brings up the debate that so many have had about what preventative measures men could also be bringing to the table. Vasectomies are minimally invasive and completely reversible procedures that men could do or there was a pill that when it came out caused quite a rift. The pill was basically a males birth control pill which would help in preventing pregnancies and the side effects were actually less than what is on so many women’s birth control pills, but there was this sort of outcry from men. Like when vasectomies are brought up for some reason there is so much reluctance and push back. That could be a whole discussion on its own about what stops them is it their machismo(can not think of the word in english), pride, idea of what makes a man who knows. Although they do contribute to the actual impregnating of someone there is then those who will not contribute or do not have the means to. As examined in the documentary there was a woman who knew she would not be able to provide a good life for the child. I think that it takes a lot for someone to even acknowledge that as it can be really easy to have the child despite if whether one wants to acknowledge whether or not the circumstances are not the best weather it be financial, physical, or mental status. What people also fail to notice is the toll this can take on a person it is not a simple decision one just comes too on a whim. If anything there should be more counseling available to these people not only before but after because although statistically it is a very small percentage of women who have reported regretting it even if you do not regret your decision it is still sure to make some sort of impact. Then looking at Haylee’s post it holds so much impact because especially right now where we are seeing more and more these states waging these wars on basically people’s uterus they can say that it is for the fetus but really it is just another power play for control. Someone once told me something that stuck with me which is imagine someone who is brain dead. They still have a beating heart they are lying in a hospital bed and one can actually see them but machines they are hooked up too are what is keeping them alive their brain is dead, there is no brain function. Someone gets the right to decide whether or not to keep them alive. Someone gets to decide whether or not they are disconnected. A fetus does not have crucial co-ordinated brain activity required for consciousness until roughly 24-25 weeks of a pregnancy. There is even another avenue that could be explored that people seem to always ignore which is just how traumatizing birth can be for the people having to go through it especially for people of color. Again a whole other conversation that could be had another time but there have been more studies and people talking about people of color giving birth and mortality rates. 

There is truly no division of Church and State why would one expect there to be in a private business if our government cannot even seem to fully grasp the idea. In my government class the other week we were discussing how I believe it is congress or another that opens the day with a prayer it was written in their schedule which we were viewing online. This is a topic of debate whether or not private businesses should have the ability to as Hobby Lobby basically discriminate or withhold on the basis of religion. It is like the bakery that would not make a wedding cake for a homosexual customer claiming it went against their religious beliefs and there have been several. In an ideal world there would be a clear division, but if our own government seems to fail to even set a clear example I cannot imagine how they expect private businesses to do so.

Response 11

Someone doing what’s best for them and their lifestyle shouldn’t be looked down upon or even be questioned. When it comes to having an abortion, there is no right or wrong choice. People get abortions for different reasons. Many women are simply not ready to have a child. With busy lifestyles such as having jobs or school or taking care of family and even having personal time, having a child doesn’t fit into some people’s daily routine. Some women are already mothers and simply can’t fit another child into their lives or they don’t want to have any more kids. rather than bringing up a child into a world in which their parents wouldn’t have the time for them, it’s better to just get an abortion. Some are not financially stable enough for a child. Many people live in poverty or have to survive on a low income in which they struggle to support themselves and their families. The average cost of raising a child in the US until they are an adult is about $230,000 according to the United States Department of Agriculture. Struggling to provide for yourself financially and having to think about raising and providing for a child can be extremely overwhelming to think of. Rather than raising a child that will experience poverty, homelessness, foster care, child abuse, lack of education it’s better to just prevent it by getting an abortion. Being pregnant a lot comes with a lot of complications due to the massives changes happening to the women’s body. Some complications obesity, diabetes, infections, mental health issues, UTI, anemia and so much more. Being that the fetus puts so much pressure on the human body, it can cause many complications affecting the health of the mother-to-be at risk. Sometimes the best option is to get the baby aborted to save the life of the mother. Teens often get raped and sometimes the best option for them and their families is abortion. I can’t imagine being a kid and getting raped and still having to raise the child. That must be so traumatizing to many young girls who are victims all around the world. Rather than getting into women’s business and banning abortions, men should consider getting vasectomies which is a rather simple procedure. People with uterus don’t impregnate themselves. therefore they should be able to have a say in what they chose to do with their bodies.

Response 11

There is no right or wrong when it comes to abortion. What’s best for someone should never be questioned. What a woman wants to do with her body is fully up to her and no one else. Women get abortion for plenty of reasons, from watching The Abortion Divide documentry one of the main reason women get an abortion is because they arent financially stable enough to support a child. One woman mentioned how “I don’t want to bring another child into the world, and I’m not financially stable. I’m already struggling with the four that I have. So I’m not sure what my other option would be. But if this wasn’t an option, then I know I would be struggling.” (FRONTLINE PBS). To me this is very valid reason to have an abortion. Some would say it’s selfish but the truth is many people have brought a child into this world that they can’t support and this only makes the child’s life harder. Many are homeless, in the foster system or living with someone abusive. Someone wanting an abortion for financial reasons proobaly want to prevent their child from having to go through this. Everyone wants to give their child the best life possible. Knowing you can’t give your child that life and wanting to prevent them from living a life with struggles and pain is not a bad thing. Lyn snapshot was only a few words but it honestly said it all “IF IT’S NOT YOUR BODY IT’S NOT YOUR DECISION.” For someone to tell you what to do with your body, especially a man who will never understand what you’re going through is the absolute worst. A woman never gets a say in anything to do with a man, so why does a man get to tell a woman what’s best for her? Abortion is so wrong until a man tells a women they arent ready for a child and she should get one. Then it’s okay because he’s being honest and letting her know in advance he’s not ready. That way if the woman decides to carry out the pregnancy it’s not his responsibility because he told her before?? But it’s wrong for a woman to decide that she’s not ready. A man should not get to decide what’s best for a woman because if roles were reversed a woman would have no say in what a man should do with his body. 

In the video Hobby Lobby: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver an important question was asked “Do corporations have religious rights or just individuals?” and this shouldn’t even be a question. I believe It’s a business and should not be viewed as an individual, therefore these  corporations should not have religious rights. John Oliver actually agrees with this and began to list some of his reasons in this video. One was that they don’t get to pick and choose what they want to be seen as based on their beliefs and I couldn’t agree more. 

Response 11

Watching the videos regarding abortion made me feel uneased. Uneased due to the women begging for them. Women writing into the Vessel for solitude of a righteous decision. No person should have to live in fear of not being able to obtain a choice, a choice that is traumatizing to begin with. I Have a life story! Growing up in a catholic environment, my reproductive rights were influenced by religious beliefs. My family was against me being put on birth control. I suffered from very painful and mentally anguishing periods. I was finally able to receive birth control when I was sixteen because I have PMDD. Which I should not have had to have a medical reason as to why I needed it. I was put on the Depo-Provera shot (which if you know anything about is the WORST birth control and I do not condone or advise) Needless to say, it was not for me or my body. I was off Depo-Provera nine months after receiving my first shot. From seventeen to twenty I tried multiple forms of birth control on and off. At twenty, I decided birth control was not conducive for my mental or body and have been natural ever since. That became MY CHOICE.  I had never been pregnant when I was younger, nor was in fear of. I went through life thinking I could never get pregnant. Me? No! Well friends, it happened. I GOT PREGNANT. I only bring this up because when watching these videos, I was reminded of my experiences. My experiences of why and, why it is totally okay for us to make the most absolute right decisions for us. My abortion was very much like the video The Abortion Divide. I had no idea what to do, I made an appointment at planned parenthood and was advised to have confirmation? My six tests weren’t enough? No! I called this place in the suburbs of Chicago (where I was living at the time) so welcoming and friendly! Set up it was! The practice was very intrusive and pro-life, I had the sonogram, they had a picture of a kidney bean with a little white speck in my uterus. I’m being serious when I say a speck, and the prolife nurse said to my ex, “hi daddy” which was very awkward with us both knowing that heartbeat was flatlined. This practice continued to text me for a year with hopes of me “making the right decision” and “I hope your snuggle bug is happy and healthy” LOL. This is all traumatizing. Was I offered healthcare? Childcare? Food? No, no I was not. I did not have health insurance at the time. How could I have a child without healthcare? Was never offered. The only thing I was offered was an unwarranted opinion. So that happened. After sonogram went to planned parenthood, I wasn’t far enough along to have the abortion pill. I had to wait until I was SIX weeks along to take pill.  My point in this ramble is the importance of reproduction rights. If this was a universal “law” and I feel so ignorant calling it a “law” it’s so much more personal than a “law” It’s a personal decision. Very personal. Personally, a fetus has the same feelings of a dead body, which is nothing.  I find it very disturbing that some states implement that six weeks is when a speck makes a decision for your life. You cannot even receive the abortion pill at least six weeks after conceiving. It’s just another notch in the oppressive mindset that we must fight for.

Response 11

As stated in many articles I’ve read, Reproductive Justice is the human right to maintain personal bodily autonomy, have children, not have children, and parent the children we have in safe and sustainable communities. Throughout many years and decades, Indigenous women, women of color, and transgender people have always fought for Reproductive Justice in our unfair system and world. It is very important for all women to be able to freely control and make their own choices about their body, sexuality, work, gender, reproduction, etc. 

Throughout this heart-wrenching documentary titled “The Abortion Divide” it showcases the true raw emotions surrounding the topic and experience of abortion. It is a very honest, unfiltered film of what truly goes on as society has broken down and criminalized women getting abortions. This offers an experience at how women overcome and ultimately face the difficulty in decision making with unplanned pregnancies and discusses the group of people are happen to be against abortion as well. It is very important to acknowledge that making abortion illegal would not make it happen any less and instead there are better ways to avoid unplanned pregnancies in the future such as better birth control, allowing women to keep their jobs if they get pregnant and so many other options. So many people across the world always have mixed reactions and feelings when it comes to abortion and as women visit the abortion clinic in this documentary, it really supports the fact that it is their decision to fully make and they can enter a room that offers respect and dignity. Some may get an abortion due to not being financially stable enough to support themselves and a newborn of their own, others do not feel content being a single parent and others simply did not plan for the pregnancy whatsoever. It is a very scary situation and a lot of women are always hesitant on getting an abortion due to common fear of being misunderstood and judged. Society has often looked at abortion as initially being wrong, however, that is a dark way to look at it. As it is coming from a woman’s body, they should have the ability and the right to freely do as they please with it, especially if they were unprepared for the long pregnancy experience. 

Furthermore, according to the hobby lobby short video, the opinions being expressed about the laws being followed or ignored have been vocalized several times. This incident and video can be a clear example of how corporations often pick and choose which laws to follow and which to ignore. The big discussion being talked about in the video can be identified and it is “Do corporations have religious rights?” John Oliver disagrees and breaks down the multiple ways in which corporations can become more like people. Many also agree with the statement that corporations should not have the right to choose what they believe is appropriate healthcare and how Hobby Lobby does not have authority to force anyone into submitting to their religious practices. This decision and topic has caused a lot of controversy and debate within the public. 

Response 11

To me the fight of abortion there is no good or bad side. Both sides are fighting for what they believe is right. I don’t really have a side on the topic because everyone knows what’s best for them nobody else does. Abortion to me is a human right and it’s a woman’s body right. Women should be able to do what’s best for them. If a woman feels like it’s not the best decision to put a child in this world it’s very understandable because she is trying to do what’s best for her and the child. I know many people talk about there are different options out there but it’s not necessarily better for the child there are things still at risk. Also some people are against abortion because of religious beliefs but some see abortion as a huge sin that but that’s not true because a sin is a sin to ere is no sin bigger than the other so to me it’s not fair to Judge these women when we all commit sin on a regular basis god is very forgiving of all of us. In The documentary “The Abortion Divide” one of the workers the escort coordinator said “Predominantly the protesters are older white males, and the patients are young women. I don’t understand why older white men think it’s appropriate for them to be, um, standing at a clinic where young women come for health care, be talking to them, interacting with them, sometimes touching them.what sometimes happens is the women will get there and freeze. And realize what it is that they’re walking into. The magnitude and the yElling can be very upsetting to them”. This part stood out to me because these men’s opinions are based on their religious beliefs which is totally understandable. But they do not think about these women or the best for these children’s lives fully. One these men are fighting against women’s bodies which is unfair because they don’t experience the same things as women they don’t understand these women really. Second, after these women keep the baby what happens after even though some homes for these mothers they can only stay there for 6months after birth. And these places can’t keep up with these women’s leave which means you don’t know what happens to these mothers and children. That’s why I feel like both sides have good attention. I feel like abortion should be a option for women always but also more resources for women to be able to keep their children. Lastly the snapshot that stood out to me is shavoya snapshot because it really represented the meaning the the documentary and that abortion is not for a set type of women abortion is deformed any women that needs it and women should have that option if they needs it.

Also on the YouTube video “Hobby Lobby on Last Week Tonight” which talks about corporations having human rights like freedom of religion. Basically these corporations want to be viewed as a person. But it’s unfair because they are only picking and choosing what they want to be viewed as a person. And that’s not how the government necessarily works. I’m totally against corporations to be viewed as people because when they make mistakes they are not treated as so. Lastly corporations are companies that provide for anyone without any type of discrimination and i feel like it should stay as so.

Content response 11

            The discussion of abortion seems to be a tricky discussion. There will be individuals who don’t believe in abortions, while others believe that abortions are needed as an option for women to be performed safely. I remember when I was younger, I learned that in older times, women in Mexico would have to use strong teas and herbs in order to have an abortion. Abortions were looked down on and were not accepted. However, now that I’m older I know there are safer ways to have abortions and that they should not be looked down on. It shouldn’t be something a woman should be shamed on. In the documentary, “The Abortion Divide”, it discusses both sides on the topic of abortion. It shows women who decide to continue with their pregnancies and others who decide to have an abortion.

            In the documentary it showed how there would be primarily older white men, who would stand outside abortion clinics to try and persuade these women they are making the wrong choice. In the documentary it says how women would freeze and be flustered as to what to do next. I honestly find this horrific. I understand if women don’t want to have an abortion themselves. However, this does not signify you could shame a woman for getting one or shaming them to the point they don’t get one. I think that the one thing that shocked me the most was the clinic that answered, “we don’t do abortions, but we are glad you called”. That felt so wrong for me. I understand they are trying to support these women and are giving them various options before taking the decision to have an abortion. I saw in the documentary how hard it was for those women to get the abortions, because they know it is not fair for them or for the baby if they had decided to continue the pregnancy, if they are financially, emotionally, or mentally unstable. However, I feel like the way they are promoting their clinic is wrong. Another thing is that they don’t offer contraception. If they are against abortions, in my opinion, the least you can do is promote safe sex.

            One thing about the documentary I thought was moving was when the women living in Mother’s Home in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, was that the women who had no support on where to live, and who decided to keep their kid, were actually being helped. A lot of times there will be individuals who say they are pro-life, yet they don’t make a change in order to help, they’ll only shame against abortions, but will not help women who need help, or will help children in need. So, I liked that there is a support system for women who decided to keep the baby. I think that Snapshot of Shavoya Easy is a good image as to how I feel about the topic on abortion. It is a women’s choice whether or not they want an abortion. Pro-choice is there to give women a choice, to allow women to support other women for whatever they choose to do with their own bodies.

Not Your Body

As much as we falsely believe that police and the church (religion) are two separate entities we must realize that politics and religion are somehow always intertwined, the use and excuse of relation are what many hide behind and use as their excuse for their doings. No bigger monster is created between politics and religion when the topic of abortion is brought to the table. Political representation is made up of predominantly white males. All the power goes to the white males who deem themselves in power and control. A man in charge of a woman’s uterus, a man calling the shots, a man who thinks he has a sole opinion on what a woman can and can’t do with her body, her very own existence. Then we have Christians, Catholics, whatever religion they are blasting on and on how abortion is bad and sin, how women are demons and whatnot. You even have doctors who are against abortion. The ones who not only take an oath to aid their patients but to not disclose this person’s information. So if a woman goes to her doctor to weigh her options and then has a doctor preaching blasphemy for her inquiring about an abortion. But then there is the topic of women no longer even having the option of getting a safe abortion because of lawmakers. 

First, there are way bigger and important issues to be discussed and fixed, for example, all the migrants stuck in texas jails, families being kept apart, and more and more mistreatment of them, more and more of them, one day there and the other gone missing. But no lawmakers let weigh in on a topic that has nothing to do with you, something that was instituted for women. Don’t even dare bring religion into this because if you are saying abortion is a sin and blasphemy how about we go over all the things that are wrong about your religion. Let’s talk about how you hide behind religion to make yourself powerful but behind closed doors, you are not this mighty religious follower you are a hypocrite.

A woman should be allowed to have the option of abortion. Again, it is her body and her choice. Women will find a way to obtain an abortion. It is better for them to have a safe resource for them to do so. It is no easy decision but it is not yours to make it on their own. We don’t know their stories, we don’t know their reason, and we don’t need to because, at the end of the day, it is their body and their choice.

Response 11

Personally, my opinion on this issue is that women should be ready. If she does not want a child, she should use contraception instead of waiting until she is pregnant, so she decides to abort her child.

There are a number of ways not to become pregnant so you can choose one to avoid miscarriage. I understand that it is difficult for them to make a decision and to follow this path as well. Abortion should not be an option. There is a choice of either using contraception or any other method of contraception or begetting. Nothing is unexpected. If a woman has had an affair, she should consider the possibility of pregnancy.

If the reason for her desire to have an abortion is money. If she cannot support her child financially. The government must provide her with all the needs of her child. If the reason is that she does not want to become a mother, someone should explain to her about motherhood. We need to understand why they want to abort, so we can help.