Discussion 9.1

Describe how you understand the “Establishment Clause” and the related “Lemon Test.”


The Establishment Clause stops the government from supporting any religion, keeping church and state separate. The Lemon Test is used to check if a government action violates this. The action must (1) have a non-religious purpose, (2) not favor any religion, and (3) not overly involve the government with religion.

Is burning the US flag protected by the First Amendment? Explain by referring to the relevant court case discussed in the reading.


Yes, burning the US flag is protected as free speech. In Texas v. Johnson (1989), the Supreme Court decided that flag burning is a form of expression, even if it offends people.

What does it mean when someone says “I’m taking the Fifth”?


When someone says, “I’m taking the Fifth,” they mean they’re using their Fifth Amendment right to stay silent so they don’t incriminate themselves.

Tatiana Reyes-Discussion Board 9.1

1.The First Amendment’s Establishment Clause prohibits the government from establishing an official religion or showing favoritism towards any specific religion. To determine whether a government action violates this clause, the courts employ the Lemon Test derived from the case Lemon v. Kurtzman. This test consists of three criteria such as, The action must have a secular purpose, The action’s primary effect cannot advance or inhibit religion, and The action must not lead to excessive entanglement between government and religion. If any of these criteria are not met, the action is likely to be deemed a violation of the Establishment Clause.

2. Is burning the U.S. flag protected?
Now Burning the U.S. flag is protected by the First Amendment as symbolic speech, ruling in Texas v. Johnson (1989). The government cannot ban it because it is controversial, as protecting free speech includes allowing actions that some may find offensive.
3. When someone says, “I’m taking the Fifth,” they are using their right to remain silent under the Fifth Amendment to avoid saying something that could incriminate them. This right protects individuals from being compelled to say things that could get them in trouble, particularly in legal proceedings. It serves as a safeguard against self-incrimination, or providing evidence against oneself.

    9.1 Discussion Board- Osama Farooq

    1. Describe how you understand the “Establishment Clause” and the related “Lemon Test”. The Establishment Clause is part of the First Amendment and states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” This means that the government cannot establish a state religion nor prefer one religion over another, ensuring a separation of church and state. This clause is crucial in maintaining a secular government where no religion is given preference in public and legal matters. The Lemon Test, which came from the 1971 Supreme Court case Lemon v. Kurtzman, provides a framework for determining whether a law or government action that might affect religion is constitutional. The test has three criteria. The statute must have a secular legislative purpose. The principal or primary effect of the statute must not advance nor inhibit religion.The statute must not result in an “excessive government entanglement” with religion.If a law fails any of these prongs, it is considered unconstitutional under the Establishment Clause. This test helps ensure that government actions remain neutral towards religion and do not excessively entangle the government with religious activities.
    2. Is burning the US flag protected by the First Amendment? Yes, burning the US flag is protected by the First Amendment, which includes the right to free speech. This was confirmed in the landmark Supreme Court case Texas v. Johnson (1989). In this case, Gregory Lee Johnson burned an American flag as a means of protest against Reagan administration policies. He was initially convicted under a Texas law outlawing flag desecration, but the Supreme Court ruled that flag burning constitutes a form of symbolic speech that is protected by the First Amendment. The Court’s decision emphasizes that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.
    3. What does it mean when someone says “I’m taking the Fifth”? Saying “I’m taking the Fifth” refers to invoking the Fifth Amendment’s protection against self-incrimination. This amendment ensures that individuals cannot be compelled to testify against themselves in criminal cases, effectively allowing them to refuse to answer questions where the responses might incriminate them. This is a fundamental right in our legal system, meant to protect personal freedoms and prevent the government from using its power to force confessions or admissions of guilt. The famous Miranda rights include the right to remain silent, stemming from this provision, ensuring that suspects are aware of their rights when taken into police custody.

    Discussion Board 9.1 Response (Marisol Beato Submission)

    1. Describe how you understand the “Establishment Clause” and the related “Lemon Test”. The way that I understand the establishment clause is that it is the idea that Congress is not allowed to create or promote a religion, in order to prevent the United States from having an official government supported religion. The reason this is done is because Americans come from many different backgrounds and support many different religions, so this allows every American to support whatever religion they deserve without feeling ostracized from supporting a religion that’s different from the one that the government supports. Since there‘s no government religion, everyone feels free to believe in whatever they want to believe in. On top of this, this also made sure that states couldn’t establish a religion as the religion of that state. For example, there couldn’t be an official religion for New York or an official religion of Texas. The lemon test were a set of criteria that was established in order to decide if a law or government action that has the potential to promote a particular religious practice should stand. If the criteria were met, then the law or action would be constitutional and would remain and vice versa if the criteria were not met. These criteria essentially stated that the action or law can’t limit or advance religious practice, it must have a reason to be done outside of religion and it shouldn’t cause the government to have excessive involvement with any form of religion. The lemon test was done in order to continue to ensure that everyone had the freedom to believe in whatever religion that they believed in without being forced or limited by laws or actions that would prevent them from doing so.

    2. Is burning the US flag protected by the First Amendment? Explain by referring to the relevant court case discussed in the reading. I would say that the First Amendment does protect the burning of the U.S flag. The reason why I say this is because of the Texas v. Johnson case that occurred in the Supreme Court. In 1984, a man named Gregory Lee Johnson ended up setting fire to a U.S flag as part of a protest that occurred near the Republican National Convention in Dallas, Texas. This caused him to get arrested and charged with “desecration of a venerated object”. This led to the Texas v. Johnson case’s decision in 1989, in which the Supreme Court ruled that flag burning is protected by the First Amendment due to it being a form of symbolic speech. Despite Congress’s attempts on trying to make flag desecration a crime, they have not succeeded in doing such a thing and burning the U.S flag is still protected by the First Amendment as a form of symbolic speech.

    3. What does it mean when someone says “I’m taking the Fifth”? When someone says that they are taking the fifth, what they mean is that they are taking the right to remain silent, which is essentially the right to not give evidence to any form of law enforcement (whether it be police officers or the court) that would incriminate oneself. For example, if an officer asks a car driver to got into a car crash to tell them what happened, the car driver, who got into the accident due to texting on their phone and keeping their eyes of the road, choses to take the fifth and doesn’t tell the officer anything since they don’t want to incriminate themselves to the police officer.

    Discussion 9.1

    1.Describe how you understand the “establishment cause” and the related “lemon test”-The establishment cause of the first amendment to the United States prohibits the establishment of religion by the government and favors one religion over another. This allows everyone to practice their own religion freely without the government being able to interfere. The lemon test is used to make sure that the establishment clause of the first amendment of the constitution isn’t being violated.

    2.Is the burning the US flag protected by the first amendment? Explain by referring to the relevant court case discussed in the reading.-The burning of the U.S flag is protected by the 1st amendment. In 1989 the Supreme Court case Texas v. Johnson ruled that burning the flag, although it was very offensive the government simply could not prohibit burning the US Flag because it is a form of expression .

    3.What does it mean when someone says “Im taking the fifth”-When someone says they are taking the fifth, this is referring to everyones constitutional right under the fifth amendment which gives them to right to not self incriminate themselves.

    Marvin alexisDB 9.2

    1. P. Williams writes in her essay, that the war on terror is a new type of a war. What’s new about it, how is it different from traditional wars?One of the most notable differences is the nature of the adversary. In traditional wars, conflicts are usually fought between nation-states or organized military forces with clear hierarchies and boundaries. In contrast, the war on terror often involves non-state actors, such as terrorist organizations like Al-Qaeda or ISIS. These groups operate transnationally and lack formal recognition as legitimate armies, making them harder to identify and target.
    2. In what ways does the “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights? Which amendment(s) does it seem to violate and why? The Fourth Amendment protects individuals against unreasonable searches and seizures and requires warrants to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. Roving wiretaps allow law enforcement to surveil multiple communication devices used by a suspect without needing a separate warrant for each device. This can be seen as a violation of the Fourth Amendment
    3. What about “Sneek and Peek” Warrants?”Sneak and Peek” warrants, also known as delayed notification search warrants, allow law enforcement to conduct searches without immediately notifying the subject of the search. This provision, part of the USA PATRIOT Act, raises several concerns regarding potential violations of the Bill of Rights, particularly the Fourth Amendment and, to some extent, the First Amendment.

    Discussion Board 9.1 – Hector Lopez

    1. From what I read, the establishment clause is a type of law put into place which gives a citizen religious freedom. In order to do so, the establishment clause makes it unconstitutional (illegal) for a state to have a preferred treatment of a religion. What this means is that the state can not officially impose rules that would force citizens to conform to a religion because doing so would strip away the freedom of choice that a person has with their religion. The Lemon test can be seen as an extension of this clause because it is a checklist of restrictions that a law must follow to be deemed constitutional. The lemon test aims to remove incentives attached to religion that would make it favorable to be apart of a certain religion, and disadvantageous for others. They do this through the 3 rules of not entangling government with religion, neither promoting or stopping religious practice, and by requiring a non-religious justification for the law.
    2. Burning the US flag is protected by the constitution as it is considered a form of speech through its message. Because the message of burning the flag does not cross the boundaries of obscenity, the symbolic action of burning a flag can only be viewed as a message from the person burning the flag. In the case of Texas v. Johnson, they found the burning of the flag to be a form of symbolic speech and therefore a protected right under the 1st amendment.
    3. When a person claims, “I’m taking the fifth” it is a display of them using their fifth amendment rights which gives them to ability to withhold answering and fiving evidence of themselves to the court. This allows the person to keep their information to themselves and protect against self-discrimination.

    Discussion 9.1

    1. While other countries may have an official religion, the establishment clause is implemented to  prohibit congress from establishing or promoting an official religion of the United States. It also bans the government from favoring religious beliefs over others or favoring religion over non- religion. The Lemon test decides whether a law that might promote a particular religious practice should be allowed to stand. In order for such a law or act to be considered constitutional and remain in it must not lead to excessive government entanglement with religion, the action or law must be neutral in its effect on religion, and there must be some non-religious justification for the law. In sum, the government does not have an official religion because this is supposed to be the land of the free and everyone should be at liberty to decide what religion they want to practice. The process of the lemon test ensures that the is not disregarding or disrespecting anyone’s religion but also keeping that separation of church and state. 

    2. Burning the U.S flag is protected by the First Amendment because it was decided that burning the flag is a form of symbolic speech. It is not harmful to anyone and it is not considered threatening symbolic speech or defamation of someone’s character in which cases it would not be protected by the First Amendment. 

    3. By “taking the fifth” a person is choosing not to incriminate themselves. It means that they are exercising their right to remain silent and not give evidence in court or to law enforcement officers that might constitute an admission of guilt or or responsibility for a crime. 

    Discussion 9.1

    The “Establishment Clause” in the First Amendment prevents the government from establishing an official religion or favoring one religion over another. It promotes the separation of church and state. The “Lemon Test” comes from the Supreme Court case Lemon v. Kurtzman (1971) and is used to determine whether a law violates the Establishment Clause. The test has three parts: the law must have a secular purpose, it must not advance or inhibit religion, and it must not create excessive government involvement with religion.

    Burning the U.S. flag is protected by the First Amendment, as ruled in Texas v. Johnson (1989). The Supreme Court decided that flag burning is a form of symbolic speech, and even if it’s offensive to some, it is protected under the freedom of expression.

    When someone says “I’m taking the Fifth,” they are referring to the Fifth Amendment, which protects against self-incrimination. This means they are choosing not to answer questions in a legal setting because their answers could be used against them in a criminal case.

    DB 9.1

    1. Describe how you understand the “Establishment Clause” and the related “Lemon Test”.

    The “Establishment Clause” is an important part of the First Amendment, that prevents from the Congress to favor one religion over another and ensures that the Congress won’t create a state-sponsored religion. The idea for the implementing the Establishment Clause comes from the history of European religious conflicts, where countries usually had an official and specific church. The lack of separation between church and state and favoring one specific religion in Europe led to many wars because of religious differences between the countries. Therefore, the U.S., who values religious freedom, needed to avoid establishing a central national religion in order to prevent the same conflicts that happen in Europe, from happening in the U.S.. Additionally, the interpretation of “Establishment Clause” throughout the years helped with making sure the government stays neutral toward religion and non-religion. To help the U.S. government understand if a law or action is contradicting the Establishment Clause and to create barriers to ensure this Clause is not being violated, the Supreme Court established the “Lemon Test” in a case known as Lemon v. Kurtzman in 1971.

    The Lemon Test includes 3 parts to determine if a law or action is violating the Establishment Clause:

    (1) The law must have a secular purpose

    (2) The law cannot promote or favor any religion

    (3) The law must avoid excessive government connections with religion.

    1. Is burning the US flag protected by the First Amendment? Explain by referring to the relevant court case discussed in the reading.

    Yes, burning the U.S. flag is protected by the First Amendment as free speech, because of the Supreme Court decision in the Texas v. Johnson case in 1989. Gregory Lee Johnson burned a U.S. flag during a protest near the Republican National Convention in Texas and was charged with the Texan law: “desecration of a venerated object”. Johnson claimed that the act of burning the flag was a symbolic way of delivering a message, and basically a way of speech. In this case, The Supreme Court decided that even though act of burning the U.S flag is offensive to many people, it’s still protected under the First Amendment, because it’s a form of expression of speech. However, the majority of the Congress did not agree with this decision and tried to overrule it with the Flag Protection Act. In 1990, the Supreme Court shut it down again as part of the  United States v. Eichman case. In fact, since 1990, people tried to amend the Constitution to allow flag burning bans to become a law, but it never worked.

    1. What does it mean when someone says “I’m taking the Fifth”?

     When someone says, “I’m taking the Fifth,” it means they are using their Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination, indicating they are rather not to say anything that might make them look guilty in a criminal case. It is important to mention that, if someone refuses to answer questions by “taking the Fifth”, it cannot be used against them in court by assuming they are guilty just because they chose to take the Fifth and not talk.