Safayatul Islam – Discussion 6.2

1. The concept of “faction” reminds us of social classes or interest groups within society that have competing goals or interests.

2. According to Federalist #10, the source of wealth (private property) lies in the “diversity of human faculties.” This refers to individuals’ different abilities, skills, talents, and efforts. Madison argues that people’s varied faculties – their capacity to acquire skills, knowledge, and resources naturally lead to unequal outcomes regarding wealth and property ownership​. Some people are more successful in utilizing their faculties to acquire property, while others, with fewer advantages or different faculties, do not accumulate as much wealth. Here, Madison implies that inequality in property ownership is a natural result of these diverse faculties, which can include intelligence, skills, or other advantages.

3. In Federalist #10, Madison says that “faculties” are the main denominator of one’s being wealthy or poor. According to him, inequality in wealth is natural as different people have different skills, capacities, and advantages (faculties). I think, for some point, his argument is correct, as efficient usage of one’s skills, capacities, and other opportunities can indeed make a difference. However, here, Madison totally overlooks the social, structural, and systemic factors like education, systemic discrimination, inheritance, and other unequal opportunities. Hence, I disagree with Madison’s explanation of wealth and poverty. 

4. According to Madison, the “first object of government ” is ” the protection of these faculties.” This means the primary purpose of government is to protect people’s abilities to acquire property. This indeed surprised me as it differs from our common contemporary views that the government should provide for the general welfare, ensure equality, and provide justice. The idea that the government’s main role is to protect property rights, even if they are unequally distributed, reflects a more individualistic and property-focused view than what we might expect from an elected government, which most people think was elected for social welfare and justice.

5. Given the previous discussion, it’s not surprising that Federalist #10 favors a republican form of government over direct democracy. Madison does not like pure democracy because it would give more power to the majority (working class), which could threaten the property interests of the wealthy minority. By advocating for a representative system, Madison aims to create a buffer between the masses and direct political power, thereby protecting the interests of property owners (the upper class) from the potential working-class people. This preference for republicanism over direct democracy reflects the desire to maintain existing class structures and protect the wealthy from democratic redistribution of wealth.

    Discussion Board 6.2- Osama Farooq

    1. The idea of a “faction” reminds me of social classes or interest groups that we’ve talked about before. Like social classes, factions are groups of people who have similar goals or interests, and those interests can sometimes conflict with what’s best for everyone else. For example, we’ve discussed how the wealthy landowners and merchants had different goals compared to small farmers and the working class. So, Madison’s idea of factions is really about groups looking out for themselves. Sometimes at the expense of others.
    2. Madison says that the source of wealth comes from the different abilities and talents people have, which he calls their “faculties.” So, basically, he’s saying that some people end up wealthy and owning property because they have different skills and opportunities that help them get there. He believes that the government’s job is to protect these differences, which means making sure that people can keep the property they’ve earned through their abilities.
    3. I think on one hand people’s wealth is mostly determined by their hard work, skills, or talent. But on the other hand wealth and poverty are influenced by other factors like access to education, family background, or social inequalities. Keeping in mind both things, I disagree with Madison’s view of wealth and poverty as his explanation is too simplistic.
    4. Madison says that the main job of the U.S. government is to protect people’s rights to own property based on their abilities. This means the government should focus on making sure everyone has the freedom to earn and keep their wealth. This might sound surprising because today we usually think of the government’s mission as promoting equality, protecting individual freedoms, or providing support to those in need. Madison’s focus on property rights shows how the makers of the Constitution were more interested in protecting the interests of those who already had wealth and power rather than ensuring fairness or equality for everyone.
    5. It’s not that surprising when you think about it. Madison wasn’t a fan of pure democracy because he worried that if the majority of people who were often poor had too much power, they could pass laws that would hurt the wealthy minority. Basically, he wanted to avoid a situation where the poor could come together and take away the wealth or property of the rich. Instead, Madison thought a republic (where people elect representatives) would work better. In a republic, it’s harder for any one group to take control, and representatives would, ideally, think about what’s best for everyone, not just what’s popular at the moment. So, his preference for a republic over pure democracy was really about protecting the interests of the property-owning class and keeping the government stable and predictable​

    Melissa Robinson

    1. Faction reminds me of people’s beliefs and how everyone believes in something different. 
    2. According to Federalist #10, people that are wealthy by owning property are different in skills and their talents.”Facilities” refer to different skills people have. Everyone can’t make the same money or succeed. 
    3. I agree and disagree with the wealthy and poverty because it shows the opportunities that affect the wealthy. They don’t show the problem social can cause the poor people when they always butting the wealthy people first. 
    4. The core mission of the U.S government is to form “the protection of different and unequal faculties of acquiring property, the possession of different degrees and kinds of property immediately results; and from the influence of these on the sentiments and views of the respective proprietors, ensues a division of the society into different interests and parties . .“ They are similar because today we have two  parties that divide us and they also had two parties that divide them.  
    5. I’m not surprised that Federalist #10 is not in favor of Democracy and supports Republicans because they don’t want everyone to vote and ignore the rights of the wealthy and minority. Showing us the different social class and how their power and decision making plays a big part

    Discussion Board 6.2


    1. What concept that we have already discussed does “faction” remind you of?
    2. According to Federalist #10 (written by James Madison), what is the source of wealth (private property)? What factor explains why some people get to possess wealth by owning private property, and others don’t (thus remaining poor)? This is a key question, because it shows how the authors of the Constitution thought about the difference between different classes of Americans! HINT: focus on the passage that begins: “The diversity in the faculties (WHAT DOES FACULTIES mean or refer to?) of men, from which the rights of property originate, is not les….”
    3. Do you agree with this explanation of wealth and poverty?
    4. What is the core mission (“first object”) of the US government? Does this surprise you, does it sound different from what our society today seems to suggest the core mission of the government is? Explain.
    5. Given the discussion in questions 1-4, are you surprised that Federalist #10 is not in favor of democracy, and supports a Republican (representative) form of government? Why would d the author dislike a (pure) democratic form of government? Hint: think about how this question connects with the social classes…