Write a paragraph reflecting on what you take away from today’s lecture. What was one thing that stood out to you or interested you? What was one thing that was a bit difficult to understand and you’d like clarified (a question you have which you did not get to ask during class). Please read through and comment on two classmates’ posts.
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Adrian M.
Something that stood out to me during today’s lecture was the chicken cup. It stood out to me because how something so small was worth 36 million and someone brought it for that price. Also why were people getting mad at the guy for drinking tee out of it if that was what it was made for? He can do what he want with it, he brought it. Another thing that stood out to me was the Chinese garden and the fact that it’s basically a retirement home for people who possibly has no income. So my question is do you have to be rich or have some kind of money to have a Chinese garden and also to maintain the Chinese garden?
I also found it to be interesting that people were so up in arms over him drinking out of the teacup, but then I guess I don’t see why he would risk marring such an old and expensive artifact. So I definately see it both ways, him using the cup for its original intent, and the risk he ran pouring a hot liquid into it, potentially ruining it.
Hi Adrian,
It’s interesting that you’re thinking about the financials of keeping the garden. I’d say back then it might’ve been a lot simpler to have that land and do what you want with it. I’m sure it’d be expensive now to start a garden like that but I wouldn’t consider that a waste of money if I was retired. With the chicken cup, I see how people who keep that sort of historical artifact in high regard might react. They might think he would damage it in some way by using it instead of keeping it on display, even if it’s in his private collection.
Hi Mohammed
the lecture was so interesting , I get to learn about Chinese art , the importance of the garden but I was chocked by the price of a tea cup wow , and I now it’s expensive to have a garden like Chinese garden but it’s good if you gonna retire you will find some kind of peace . I also like the idea of them having dragon , I learn the meaning of dragon in Chinese history , like for Chinese dragon breath out hair not fire . And I also learn about how Chinese are confident about themself.
I don’t think you have to be rich to create a Chinese garden, I do believe you gotta have some money for that it’s basically like building a new backyard.
What I could take away from today’s lecture is lots of historical history and culture in 13th century Chinese art. Some things that stood out and or interest me where the scholar Gardens how they were a place of Tranquility, place to relax, and sometimes it pays to socialize. One thing that was a bit difficult to understand was the horse painting I’m not really sure what it’s real true meaning was i know that it had to do with loyalty.
Hi Cleanna,
I could see the confusion of the hand scroll paintings with the horses on them. What I liked was how they symbolized either walking away or towards the starting point (capital) of the country. Like you said, those who painted them probably valued loyalty as much as their own life, and to walk away from the nation because of a change in leadership was probably a very bold statement to make back then. I imagine that it was a very dividing topic among the people of China.
Today’s lecture was most of the Chinese artwork from the 13th century have some really interesting cultural background and telling us a story using images like the well feed vs underfed horse, Hon Dynasty, the cup that is worth $36 million. The images Chinese Garden looks peaceful and calming and interesting facts about Confucianism and Emperor associated with Dragons. The horse paintings was little difficult to understand, but now I got it.
My take away from today’s lecture was learning the background of the different dynasty and how different the culture is. The architecture is very different from Europe. It was very unique and very beautiful. As well as learning a little bit of confusion and what were the five relationship. The part I loved was the slide of the irony of the great wall.
One thing i that stood out the most to me was the tiny cup which was valued at 36 million. I wouldn’t pay that much money for that. However i do agree with Adrian M. people shouldn’t get mad over the man buying that cup since it was his money. I’m sure we have done the same buying something really expensive and people asking us why and getting mad at us.
I also learned a lot about the effects of the dynasties in the lecture. I suppose I always assumed the succession of rule was more or less like in Europe where one family keeps it going forever. Well, I guess its not totally unlike that but I hadn’t really known much about the Mongolian rule, and how different the Chinese and the Mongolian cultures were at the time.
One thing that stood out to me is the symbolism in the direction of the horses in the hand scrolls titled “Emaciated Horses” by Gong Kai and “Two Horses” by Ren Renfa. One question I had was about “Kangxi Emperor (1662-1722) practicing calligraphy”. I wonder if their image in the public eye was after all improved by this painting and if so, what progress that may have led to in China. If not, I’m curious as to what additional steps had to be taken to win over the people.
The things interested me the most after the Art in China from the 13th century are the Chinese Gardens. One of my favorite places in the city is a this small area in the Greenwood Cemetery. After this lecture I realize the area is based around a Chinese garden. I didn’t know the history behind Chinese gardens – how they were built by government officials and basically served as retirement homes, and I loved learning that. One question I have is, Is the all the art during that time political in nature? or did we just have two examples of political art? (the two different horse paintings) Well, I guess I know not ALL art would have been political, but was that the most popular form of the expression?
Hi Bridgid,
My understanding of political art is that it will always be relevant during any time period in any country because politics (the governing of human life) never stops. I’m sure there was experimental and expressive artwork being made at someone’s house in China during the 13th century. When we reflect back on it centuries later (like we are) the political work is more relevant and better documented. So it can seem as if politics are all people cared about.
Hi Adrian,
It’s interesting that you’re thinking about the financials of keeping the garden. I’d say back then it might’ve been a lot simpler to have that land and do what you want with it. I’m sure it’d be expensive now to start a garden like that but I wouldn’t consider that a waste of money if I was retired. With the chicken cup, I see how people who keep that sort of historical artifact in high regard might react. They might think he would damage it in some way by using it instead of keeping it on display, even if it’s in his private collection.
Hi Mohamed!
I agree with you, the garden was in fact interesting!
Hi Adrian,
It’s interesting that you’re thinking about the financials of keeping the garden. I’d say back then it might’ve been a lot simpler to have that land and do what you want with it. I’m sure it’d be expensive now to start a garden like that but I wouldn’t consider that a waste of money if I was retired. With the chicken cup, I see how people who keep that sort of historical artifact in high regard might react. They might think he would damage it in some way by using it instead of keeping it on display, even if it’s in his private collection. It reminds me of the Ecce Homo in Borja, Spain. You can look up the full story if you want but basically, a woman took it on herself to restore an old faded painting of Jesus and made it look like a child’s painting. A little different because she technically didn’t own it, and her botched attempt added to its notoriety.
Hi Cleanna,
I could see the confusion of the hand scroll paintings with the horses on them. What I liked was how they symbolized either walking away or towards the starting point (capital) of the country. Like you said, those who painted them probably valued loyalty as much as their own life, and to walk away from the nation because of a change in leadership was probably a very bold statement to make back then. I imagine that it was a very dividing topic among the people of China.
the lecture was so interesting , I get to learn about Chinese art , the importance of the garden but I was chocked by the price of a tea cup wow , and I now it’s expensive to have a garden like Chinese garden but it’s good if you gonna retire you will find some kind of peace . I also like the idea of them having dragon , I learn the meaning of dragon in Chinese history , like for Chinese dragon breath out hair not fire . And I also learn about how Chinese are confident about themself.
In today lesson what stood out to me was the small teacup knowing that it was just a small teacup that I didn’t know can cost that much $36,000,000?. It was very shocking a teacup that small could be worth that much . Also I really like the pavilion gardens where people can relax and go there to feel peaceful. Another thing was when you mention that when dragons sneeze it means its going to rain. I want to know what the jug was use for ?
the lecture was so interesting , I get to learn about Chinese art , the importance of the garden but I was chocked by the price of a tea cup wow , and I now it’s expensive to have a garden like Chinese garden but it’s good if you gonna retire you will find some kind of peace . I also like the idea of them having dragon , I learn the meaning of dragon in Chinese history , like for Chinese dragon breath out hair not fire . And I also learn about how Chinese are confident about themself.
the lecture was so interesting , I get to learn about Chinese art , the importance of the garden but I was chocked by the price of a tea cup wow , and I now it’s expensive to have a garden like Chinese garden but it’s good if you gonna retire you will find some kind of peace . I also like the idea of them having dragon , I learn the meaning of dragon in Chinese history , like for Chinese dragon breath out hair not fire . And I also learn about how Chinese are confident about themself ,
the lecture was so interesting , I get to learn about Chinese art , the importance of the garden but I was chocked by the price of a tea cup wow , and I now it’s expensive to have a garden like Chinese garden but it’s good if you gonna retire you will find some kind of peace . I also like the idea of them having dragon , I learn the meaning of dragon in Chinese history , like for Chinese dragon breath out hair not fire . And I also learn about how Chinese are confident about themself
Nerca, I think what you meant to say was that the Chinese dragon breathes water instead of fire. I too would agree that this is very interesting as opposed to the traditional fire breathing dragon. I would like to know more about the water breathing dragons in stories and folklore from China.
that was really interesting to know that Chinese dragons breath water instead of fire, I would’nt know if you didn’t bring that up Thank you.
the lecture was so interesting , I get to learn about Chinese art , the importance of the garden but I was chocked by the price of a tea cup wow , and I now it’s expensive to have a garden like Chinese garden but it’s good if you gonna retire you will find some kind of peace . I also like the idea of them having dragon , I learn the meaning of dragon in Chinese history , like for Chinese dragon breath out hair not fire . And I also learn about how Chinese are confident about themself.
I thought this was a really interesting lecture. I love learning about other cultures and it was all so intriguing. What was most interesting was how art was signed by its owners/collectors. I’m an artist myself and to imagine that kind of relationship with art is very interesting. Sometimes people can get very precious with artwork and to have people stamp/”sign” it changes the attitude around the art. It is very beautiful to me. I plan to experiment with this in my own work. What I would like to know more about is the common attitude around the creation of art in China. Growing up I have always seen incredibly creative work come from the east, much different that art that comes from America. I would like to know what ideas and relationships are taught to the children/youth about creativity and art that fuel the way art is made and conceptualized in China.
The lecture is so interesting. The thing I learned from the lecture of Chinese is that Chinese art is all about painting,calligraphy,pottery,sculpture,bronzes.jade carving and other fine or decorative art forms produced in china over the centuries.I got shocked in the lecture that a Shanghai based art collector Liu Yiqian spent $36.3 million on a tiny porcelain cup with a chicken painted on its surface.I also learned that there were only 7/8 of those cups are available in the entire world .Only 3 of them are for sale and the others are on museum. The question that came up to my mind that ,Did he buy the cup to satisfy himself?
what I was surprised in the lecture of art of china is a cup and it is worth it. Famous Chinese Wall and the beautiful Garden of the Cessation of Official Life
Reading my classmates reflections about the class lecture which I wasn’t able to attend gave me thoughts and ideas what it really was about. I learned that the lecture was interesting and it also taught about the Chinese art and paintings. It gave us lessons about other cultures and beautiful tea cup garden, one thing really got my attention when I read a comments from a classmate that Chinese dragon breath water instead of fire.
One thing that stood out to me about this lecture was the Chinese garden because last year I went to The Metropolitan Museum of Art where it has a section that’s a model of the Chinese garden which it was beautiful but nothing compare to the pictures I saw on the lecture. another thing that stood out to me was how a small object from decades can be worth millions.
From this Lecture, one thing that was really interesting to me was how expensive the small cup was and the importance of the garden! From the images, the garden seems like a peaceful place and the story behind It was really interesting.