Alirizaeva Sharofatoy- Discussion Board 6.1

  1. Based on the reading constitution was written by rich white men who owns businesses, lands and slaves. All system was controlled by them. Women, slaves and men who do not own anything was not able to give a vote, this group called disenfranchised. Rich people in order to maintain their wealth tried to keep control by themselves.
  2. The class structure is little similar as nowadays also only few percent of the people control most of the wealth an power. However the difference is nowadays every person can vote once you turn to 18 years old, which does not exist in back days.
  3. The people who wrote the Constitution were afraid of democracy, because they thought that if they give this opportunity too poor people they will start taking power and their wealth from them, and there would be equality, and the same better lifestyle. For not loosing their power and wealth, they created the Constitution which looked like democracy. But they were still able to control the system, and keep their wealth.

Discussion board 6.1

1. Based on the readings, the class responsible for writing the Constitution was the wealthy class. The Constitution was written primarily by property-owning white men, including landowners and merchants. The class excluded from the process of creating the Constitution consisted of disenfranchised groups such as enslaves, Indigenous, women, and non-property-owning men.

2. It is different, but we can still see reflections of the social class structure in modern society. For example, nowadays almost every individual over 18 years old is allowed to vote, which was not the case back then. However, it is still clear that power and influence remain concentrated among a relatively small group of people.

3. The people who wrote the Constitution were afraid of democracy because they feared that the common people, those who did not own property or have economic independence might exert too much influence. They believed this could harm property rights, change the social order, or influence the new government’s policies.

Who the Constitution Really Served and Still Serves Today

  1. The Constitution was mostly written by wealthy people who owned land, businesses, or large amounts of money and their goal was to keep that power safe. People without property, like poor farmers, women, enslaved people, and others, weren’t given any role in shaping it. They didn’t have voting rights or a voice in the process. The main divide was about who had control over resources and who didn’t.
  2. I think the class system from back then still exists in a lot of ways today. A small number of people still hold most of the money and influence, but now it’s more hidden behind legal equality and voting rights. Even though more people can participate, economic inequality keeps power out of reach for a lot of us.
  3. The framers of the Constitution didn’t fully trust the majority of the people in the United States, especially poor and working people with decision-making power. They were scared that “too much democracy” would lead to laws that hurt their property and wealth. So, they built a system that would keep political power concentrated among the wealthy and limit what the majority could do.

Discussion Board 6.1

  1. Based on the arguments presented in Readings 6.1 and 6.2, which social class
    wrote the Constitution, and which class was excluded and not allowed to
    participate in this process? In your comment, make sure you clearly specify the
    difference between the two classes by giving examples from the readings.
    The social class that wrote the Constitution were wealthy educated “white males”
    primarily from the upper ranks of society, who held various positions, including lawyers,
    merchants, plantation owners, and political leaders. The class that was excluded and
    not allowed to participate in this process were poor white males lacking sufficient
    property, women and men of African descent, Native Americans and indentured
    servants.

    I. Wealthy (capitalist)
    The wealthy possess the wealth, power, and resources to shape and control major
    institutions and the government. Also, their goal is to increase their wealth and power, even
    at the expense of the working class.
    II. Working Class
    This class must sell their labor for wages to survive, and are at the mercy of the capitalist
    class. According to Parenti, they are society’s true producers, and the people creating value,
    but being paid much less than that value due to the exploitative nature of capitalism.

2. Would say that the social class structure of early United States society, was the same as ours today, or different? Explain. I believe that the social class structure of the early United States is exactly the same as it was in the beginning. This is because the fundamental division between the wealthy and non-wealthy has remained a defining feature of the American social structure. However today, following the Civil War and the abolishment of slavery, formerly enslaved people have gained the legal right to own land. Furthermore, Constitutional amendments and laws such as the Voting Rights Act of 1965, voting rights have been extended to people of African descent. However, irrespective of this, wealth inequality has increased significantly, with a substantial concentration of wealth in the hands of the top 1%.

    3. Why were the people who wrote the Constitution so afraid of democracy? Hint:
    think about how to answer this question by discussing it in terms of social classes.

    Firstly, our Founding Fathers were concerned that if the ability to vote was extended to all, including the poor and uneducated, it might lead to policies like the redistribution of property or the election of individuals who would favor the interests of the common people over those of the wealthy. They also believed that as the working class were the majority, if the right to vote was extended to all it would threaten the interests of the elite, property owning class.

      DISCUSSION 6.1- Lawanda Nicholson

      The Constitution was written by the wealthy upper class—rich landowners, merchants, and slaveholders—who wanted to protect their property and power. Poor people, workers, women, enslaved people, and Indigenous people were not included and had no say in the process.

      The difference between the two classes is clear: the rich had land, money, and education, while the poor had little to no rights or power. For example, events like Shays’ Rebellion showed how poor farmers were angry about debt and taxes, and the wealthy saw them as a threat.

      The class structure back then is similar to today in some ways. A small group still controls most of the wealth and political power. But it’s also different because now more people can vote and have legal rights, even though inequality still exists.

      The people who wrote the Constitution were afraid of democracy because they didn’t trust the poor to make decisions. They worried the poor might vote to take wealth from the rich. So, they designed the government to limit power to the wealthy and keep control in the hands of the upper class.

      Discussion board 6.1| Fabio Arcani

      Those who wrote the constitution were what was called the “gentlemen”, people who were white, owned land or property and was not an immigrant. They were the ones who acknowledged their power and wealth and needed with urgency control the “Majority class”, or “Majority faction”. From what I could understand, the majority factions were the people who were able to vote, but did not hold as much power and wealth as those who wrote the constitution. However, we had the disenfranchised as well, women, slaves, native americans, immigrants, and whites who did not own property or servants. These people had no say about who was elected or who could take important decisions in the country.

      I would suggest that the structure of society of the times of independence is slightly similar, and at the same time vastly different. The people who are lawmakers, and the people who hold the power are in our times, wealthy and powerful, and the proposals that both parties suggest in the country are on many occasions very similar. This does not only not give us a real option of what we can choose about what will happen in the country and how it will affect us. Only the rich and powerful make the real decisions about what will happen in the future of the country.

      Similar to the previous statement I made, I believe that those who wrote the constitution knew that the people would see the disparities of wealth and the lack of opportunities they had back then. At the same time, when people are disfranchised or do not have the option of voting, the people who are more advantaged than them will take the decision and control how their lives will go. They will be able to select how much everything will be, and different ways to make sure the people who are disadvantaged keep being disadvantaged. When people do not have the possibility to choose what can be better for them, their possibility to have a better life becomes almost null.

      Mahmudul Hossain – Class and The Constitution

      1. Which social class wrote the Constitution, and which class was excluded? Give examples.
      Answer: The Constitution was written by the wealthy class landowners, bankers, merchants, and slaveholders. Those were rich white men who had a lot of property and power. For an example, Parenti from the open lab’s information’s says that the Founding Fathers like George Washington and Alexander Hamilton wanted a strong central government to protect their property and wealth. The people’s who were excluded were poor farmers, workers, women, slaves, Native Americans, and anyone who didn’t own property. From the given information from open lab Beard explains that most people couldn’t vote or even attend the Constitutional Convention, like indentured servants, the poor, and all women. Parenti adds that the rich were scared of these poor people demanding fairer treatment, so they tried to keep them out of power.

      2. Was the class structure in early U.S. society the same as today, or different?
      Answer: The class structure in early U.S. society similar in some ways and different in other ways. Before that only the rich white men had power, and poor people had nothing to say. But in present situation lots of people can vote and have rights, but still rich people and big businesses man’s have a lot of control in politics, just like in the previous history. Even though things look more equal today, money and power still decide a lot of things. The same class problems still exist now also rich vs poor but now they are harder to see clearly because there are more rights and laws that seem fair on the surface.

      3. Why were the people who wrote the Constitution afraid of democracy?
      Answer: The people who wrote the Constitution afraid of democracy because democracy meant giving power to all people, especially the lower class. The writers of the Constitution didn’t trust the common people. From the open lab notes Parenti explains that, they feared things like debt relief or land reforms that would help poor farmers. Beard also mentions how rich people didn’t want laws that would hurt their profits or investments. They believed poor people would vote for leaders who could change the system and take away wealth from the rich. That’s why they created a system that looked like democracy but still kept most power in the hands of the wealthy class.

      Discussion Board 6.1

      1. Based on the arguments presented in Readings 6.1 and 6.2, which social class wrote the Constitution, and which class was excluded and not allowed to participate in this process? In your comment, make sure you clearly specify the difference between the two classes by giving examples from the readings.
      2. Would say that the social class structure of early United States society, was the same as ours today, or different? Explain.
      3. Why were the people who wrote the Constitution so afraid of democracy? Hint: think about how to answer this question by discussing it in terms of social classes.