Brandon Entenberg Discussion Board 9.2

  1. P. Williams discusses how the war on terror is different from traditional wars in her essay. First, she claims that the enemy isn’t a nation like in World War II, but rather a mysterious organization of terrorists who don’t follow the laws. They are difficult to stop since they can attack at any time or place. Their ways of fighting are also different. Terrorists use strategies like chemical weapons and suicide bombs instead of tanks and soldiers. It’s hard for regular troops to handle, and the battle is unfair. The best course of action from a legal and ethical point of view is another highly debated topic. Some of the actions governments take, such as watching citizens and arresting them without charge or trial, lead to serious concerns about justice and rights. Also, war messes with people’s minds. It’s about spreading fear and uncertainty in everyone, not just about battles and bombs. That has an effect on society as a whole, changing people’s behavior and way of life
  1. Based off “Roving Wiretaps” in the Patriot Act , this act break the Fourth Amendment, which says the government can’t search or seize someone’s stuff without a good reason. This law doesn’t state who or what they’re looking for so innocent people might get spied on. Also, it seems it can mess with the Fifth Amendment, which protects us from saying things that could make us look guilty. If someone’s under surveillance without a clear reason, they might accidentally say something that makes them look bad.
  2. The “Sneak & Peek” warrants in the Patriot Act could also violate the Fourth Amendment. This amendment usually requires law enforcement to get a warrant based on probable cause and to tell the person being searched about it. But with sneak and peek warrants, the FBI can search without telling the person right away. This could be unfair because it doesn’t allow the person to dispute the search.

Lynette Boyd

  1. P. Williams states that the war on terror is different from traditional wars. It is different because it is a fight against non-state terrorist groups, where as traditional wars require strategy. There is also a concern for prisoners or hostages and how they are considered and treated during these times.
  2. The “Roving Wiretaps” of The Patriot Act violates the Fourth Amendment’s protecting against excessive and unnecessary search and seizures. The Rovering Wiretaps allows law enforcement to watch and listen in on conversations between their suspects and they do not have to specify what phone is being tapped.
  3. “Sneak and Peek” warrants allows law enforcement to enter your property without notification. These types of warrants can be concerning because it could be argued that it violates a citizens Fourth Amendment right. I believe the “Sneak and Peek” warrant can be dangerous and put innocent lives at risk.

The war on terror is different and not like traditional war like how the military has battles or war between nations, the war on terror was terrorists using “ unconventional tactics”rather than military operations. 

The roving wiretaps seems to violate the fourth amendment which means law enforcement can obtain a single search warrant to wiretap devices , supporters of it feel wiretaps are needed to deal with terrorists but on the other hand non supporters feel it can lead to privacy violations who comes in contact with the suspect

Same for sneak peek and warrants the pros is it allows investigators to search for drugs etc without notice so that no one can cover up the investigation but the cons are they will be able to use this for things other than terror cases and for minor things, which would cause many more issues which violates the fourth amendment as well

  1. what’s new about it is we’re fighting against fear and our minds as she stated, and we our enemy becomes anyone who we are afraid of. were as before it was a war against people or things but now we are just frightful. with all the things that has happened we dont have a clear understanding to why and that leaves many in fear because we do not know where and who the attacks are coming from.
  2. the “Roving Wiretaps” violate the bill of rights because it violates people’s 4th amendment that people are protected against unreasonable searches and seizures. say I meet a person on the street and don’t know nothing about what they do now because they are being watched I have to now have my whole life watched just for coming in contact with them and I have absolutely nothing to do with what they do. and just for speaking to someone one the street isn’t a justifiable reason to have my life investigated.
  3. Sneak and peak do the same thing and violates a person’s 4th amendment because you are entering my place of business, employment or home without my knowledge and permission.

Nuri Shin – Discussion Board 9.2

1. P. Williams writes about how the “war on terror” is different from any war before because it’s fought against an enemy that could be anywhere, making us scared of almost anyone. It’s hard to have a conversation about what’s really happening without fear taking over. She highlights how every scary situation leaves us with unanswered questions and fears, leading to more terror. Williams mentions some people suggest using truth serums on those who won’t talk, but that idea misses the point because we can’t read minds, which shows we’re relying more on fear than the actual facts.

2. The “Roving Wiretaps” part of the Patriot Act allows the government to listen in on any communication device someone might use with just one warrant. People are concerned this could lead to the government spying on anyone who talks to the suspect, infringing on our Fourth Amendment rights that protect us from unwarranted searches and defend our privacy.

3. “Sneak and Peek” warrants let authorities search someone’s home or business without telling them immediately. This practice has raised alarms about privacy and whether it violates the Fourth Amendment, which usually requires the government to inform individuals if they’re going to search or take their property. To me, it seems like a fine grey line between security measures and individual rights.

Discussion Board 9.2

  1. P. Williams writes in her essay, that the war on terror is a new type of a war. What’s new about it, how is it different from traditional wars?
  2. In what ways does the “Roving Wiretaps” of the Patriot Act seem to violate the Bill of Rights? Which amendment(s) does it seem to violate and why?
  3. What about “Sneek and Peek” Warrants?