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Food Zheng – Discussion 8

These are related to each other for the same reason that they work together with the objective of bringing justice to the rights of each woman. Suffrage, Labor Rights, and the Equal Rights Amendment are objectives that every woman at the time did not have and that with effort these movements were able to create in order to obtain the justice they deserved. In his time, there was always talk about rights and how everyone should have them, but they always accepted the fact that everyone should have them except women. This is why these 3 movements are interrelated in order to provide them with the rights that every woman deserves. It is to obtain protection for any situation that occurs, such as “The Triangle Shirtwaist ” at that time there was no better condition in the work environment for the very fact that those who worked there were women and nobody cared that women something happens at work, because they have no rights. That is why with these movements they fought so that each woman has this protection of the same rights as hers and that another catastrophe does not occur due to simple discrimination.

Labor rights are also issues of gender justice due to the very fact that at the time, men were paid a certain amount at their jobs while women were given less than the minimum. This is why it creates gender justice, because at the time men were protected by the fact that if they weren’t paid a certain amount they were going against the rules, but if women were paid much less, it wasn’t important or they couldn’t even think of being able to charge the same as the man. This is what happens with the ERA, women realized the discrimination in rights and that is why they started this movement in order to obtain what should be inherited for them by nature. Even if at the time, the first time the movement failed, they did not give up and quickly got back on the road to fight for rights.

I see these historical themes more represented in a more spontaneous way, it is said that women have the right to anything but they are judged as soon as they say they want to work instead of having children. Despite having fought for each of the rights, there are still things that are still being fought for. I have heard many times that they suggest that a woman, when interviewing for an important job, not say that she wants to be a mother soon because otherwise the company will not take her into account. For the simple fact that if she says that she wants to be a mother, she means that the company has to pay her for the rest of the days that she will have due to her pregnancy and it would also be valid for the woman to take the day off in case her child gets sick. Many times, they say that there is no discrimination against women, but there are small actions that show the opposite. Despite having fought for all her rights, there are still things that are still a little out of place.

Melissa.Valle Discussion #8

The fight for labor rights and the fight for women’s suffrage are two of the most pivotal movements in American history. The right to vote and the right to bargain collectively have the power to directly impact the lives of millions of people. When women gained the right to vote, they leveraged that power to advocate for equal pay, workplace protections, and labor rights for women. Today, women’s labor rights are still synonymous with women’s rights.Women’s labor rights are fundamentally connected to women’s rights. Women’s rights are the rights of women to be free from discrimination, to be treated with dignity and respect, and to have equal rights and opportunities with men. Because women are primarily responsible for providing for the needs of the family, their rights are often intertwined with the rights of others to be free from oppression. Through their labor, women have traditionally contributed to the American economy, which has allowed them to make decisions concerning the allocation of their time and resources.

Clare Kutsko Discussion 8

The major issues behind the movement towards the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA), were primarily women’s suffrage and labor rights. These are two topics that women fought for their right in for decades. With all the inequality we are looking at in this course and through the readings touches a little bit on different injustices, because they can’t help but connect. If there is someone who wants to be at the top, they most likely are pushing the majority to the bottom, metaphorically speaking.

More specifically, when women came up against these issues, they connected within themselves. If a women wants to make changes in how the system is run, wether it be decisions about her own work, life, and body, or other decisions as a member of society, she has to have a say in who is running the government offices. Therefor, she needs the right to vote. Additionally, if a woman wants to then fight for the labor conditions where she works, or labor rights in general, she needs access to the persuasion of the law.

ERA would give all the changes some land to stand on, because before they are just a fight away of being lost or won, and that is too risky when time and time again has shown that people’s lives end up on the line, not only literally but figuratively. People dye in fires, they die from abuse, and they also live a lot better if they can take part n the culture around them, contributing to it as well as having a say about their rights in it.

The Labor laws are also a gender issue because of the different types of jobs given to people. In the films we watched. Although they have been extended into many different variations and developments, they were originally born from the devastation of the  Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire.

I see labor issues all the time, not just from women’s to men’s salaries, but the protection of women and children. Like we learned about in the final movie, sweat shops, fast fashion, coming down on the women who have to also bring their children with them.

Nadia Jimenez Discussion 8

Suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are all correlated with each other. They all have to deal with people fighting for what they believe is right and help make a change based on the issue. The people fighting for these movements just want to be equal and get what they work hard for.

Labor rights are also issues of gender justice because there are many women who don’t get paid what they should and aren’t tried right in the workplace. Many people have a stereotype of women that they shouldn’t work or “aren’t capable”, when they are just as capable to work as men are. Plenty of women also get harassed or sexually assaulted in their place of work. They shouldn’t have to fear those things because a workplace should be a safe environment for all employees no matter the gender.

These issues are still happening in todays society all the time. Most women won’t get hired at a certain job because employers assume that they won’t be able to do the job, however, this is unfair because you don’t have to be a certain gender to do a specific job that any human being can accomplish. Everyone should get equal pay for equal work.

Alexandra Diodonet Discussion Board 8

Sufferage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are all related because they are seeking class for women and working-class people, the purpose of the equal rights amendment stated that the rights guaranteed by the Constitution apply to equality to all people regardless of sex. All of these are related to fighting for human rights and for equality, it doesn’t matter what gender or sexual orientation it’s all about fighting for rights whether is the right to vote or to work. The reason why labor rights are an issue of gender justice is that gender justice means fighting for equality so all people regardless of their gender can thrive. Regardless of their gender, there have been jobs in that people are treated poorly, not getting paid enough, and also the way they have been treated in the job such as the boss can steal from their workers. This has been going on throughout history now jobs are trying to put gender-neutral bathrooms signs for that person who doesn’t identify as male or female or all genders can use the restrooms. The problems that are still going on are people having to work extra shifts and getting paid enough, another problem is people are not getting into promotions or job training opportunities because of their gender and their sexualities. They are not treated equally as everyone else and it is known to be a problem and the reason why labor rights are issues as gender justice. I believe that we are in a better position today than historical society, although they need to be some change such as getting paid equal, being treated with respect not caring what sexuality or gender they are. Compared to historical times especially from the industrial revolution there were new things that bring the economy high, the problem during that time was people including kids were working for a lot of hours and not having enough money and getting injured a lot, still leading them to work. This is going on today but the only difference is kids haven’t been working or getting injured, depending on what job you’re doing there have been people that have been doing a lot of labor work and not getting paid enough money. If you’re letting someone work on days where they’re supposed to have their day off or not give them a day off then they deserve to be paid more.

Giselle Valentine – Discussion 8

The suffrage, labor rights and equal right amendment related because they all seek the same thing. Rights for women and working class people. The three seek justice for those who are in a vulnerable state and exploited. Labor rights are also issues of gender justice because most often the workers who create the garments and pieces for trade are women and some men who are paid entirely too little to be able to have a decent quality of life and work under dangerous conditions. Making it a matter of human rights. There are many ways that these historical issues are still prevalent today in the workplace. A lot of workers still are not equally paid based on gender and women are still working to be respected like a member of society. I also think it was funny that one of the people mentioned in the article who’s name is Shafly was against ERA because it would eventually lead to a future of gender-neutral bathrooms and women being drafted into the military” because we have gender neutral bathrooms now and what’s so bad about that. Guess that lady isn’t too happy with today’s state. In today’s climate woman are still being denied promotions and even pay raises or training opportunity that is given to people of another  because of gender identity or sexual orientation even though they are  are equally qualified and eligible, still being held to a much different  standards, and going through hardships because they don’t act or present them selves in a way that is conformative  to traditional concepts  of femininity or too masculine So in many ways we van say that alot of things have not changed from the 1920’s til now but in others we have seen huge progression. I think we are in a better position now to get something like the ERA passed and we just need to continue to do the work. These historical issues do not have to be something that continues to be a condition in todays times in this country or any other country and we can put things in place to help woman in other countries as well with trade laws but to be honest this country has always just cared for one thing and that’s money and with a capitalistic mentality we will have a long way to go. Human rights are for everyone regardless of gender or where they were born and the only way for liberation is liberation with everyone and we need to get out “house” in order so to speak to be able to do that. The people that lost their lives in those fires happened because the factory design was in place to save money, not people. 

ANTIONE MALAVE, Discussion 8

  • How are suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment related?
  • How/why are labor rights also issues of gender justice?
  • How do you see these historical issues enacted in today’s society?

They are related to being laws or policies that were implemented and fought for due to the inequalities that plagued them. What they also have in common is that those rights and amendments are still being challenged today. All three of them have in common that they are shared injustices.

Imagine if everyone supported each other, not just online sending money i mean in real time marching with them. I think that anytime there is an issue with how people are treated regardless of race, sex, ethnicity, it should be a world issue to take on . Imagine protesting as a unit for your fellow man , woman whatever you call yourself. If that were to take place (I am doubtful but still hopeful) allot more laws would either be changed or eradicated all together. Usually woman are paid less to work the same hours as a man . Unequal pay scales, maternity, the inability to vote. Add that to the fact that woman essentially are looked at beneath men.

While there has been tremendous amount of progression as far as some of the historical issues are concerned. I feel as thou I have stated previously that in some cases the original idea and energy placed into fighting these movements have become a bit of a mockery. With the original ideas or aim for a specific movements being hijacked and changed to fit a different narrative. Another issue that seems to go unnoticed is that the policies/laws only really start rolling into effect after something horrific happens .(I am not trying to be a Debbie downer I swear) As was the case in the Triangle factory fire. It was only after the deaths that the government felt it needed to respond by having policies and laws put into place. While I don’t mind seeing protests everywhere especially the larger scale ones the do not dare show on American television the injustices would cease if we were unified and everyone was fighting on the same team

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  • How are suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights ammendment related?
  • How/why are labor rights also issues of gender justice?
  • How do you see these historical issues enacted in today’s society?

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