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Lamis Chapman discussion 8

The equal rights amendment, labor rights and suffrage are all related because they each led and created the space for the next to occur. Each fight was worth fighting and allowed for a change to come. Labor rights are also issues of gender issues, as shown in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire that took place on March 25, 1911 in Manhattan, New York City. This tragedy took the lives of 146 young women and girls. The incident is a clear example of how these young women were not protected in the workplace and the importance of labor rights. Following the catastrophe, on April 5, 1911 a funeral was held for the victims of the fire, which contained over 350,000 people in attendance. Crazy to think think that the owners of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory both Max Blanck and Isaac Harris were equally charged with manslaughter but ultimately found not guilty. In today’s society I do see these historical issues enacted, New York passed the Sullivan-Hoey Fire Prevention law in October 1911, in accordance with the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory. Which requires factory owners to install sprinkler systems. As well as mandatory breaks when working more than 5 or 6 hours.

Jesica Rodriguez – Discussion 8

Suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are related that the three tie in with each other. All three deal with people fighting for their rights and what they believe is right. Suffrage was the struggle for the right of women to vote and run for office. This reform movement aimed at expanding these rights to women without any limitation or degree such as poverty ownership, payment of tax, etc. The equal rights amendment was to provide legal equality and prohibit discrimination based on gender. Labor rights grew out of the need to protect the common interest of workers.

Labor rights are also gender justice because women weren’t getting paid as much as men. There is uneven access to education where women still have less access to education than men. One of the causes of gender inequality in employment is the division of jobs. That men are more capable of handling certain jobs that women can not handle. According to the reading, “Virginia Just Became the 38th state to pass the Equal Rights Amendment. Here’s What to know about the history of the ERA” mentioned that, “Working women at the time were focused on gaining workplace protections for women and children, and some were concerned that an Equal Rights Amendment would endanger laws that made factories safer and limited of the number of houses women could work” (pg2). In this case, women and children were demanding better workplace protection because some of the workplaces were not safe for women and children to work in.

In today’s society, I would say I do see that on construction sites the majority of the people working there are men. Knowing that a majority of women want to join and work at a construction site because they know that they got the skills to be able to work there but there is always this thing where they feel like construction is just for men and not for women to work in. As well in supermarkets, you can see that the only people who take over as cashiers are women. I have heard that women are supposed to just work as cashiers. It’s just this thing in today’s society that the positions in a job do go with what your identity is. If you’re female or male you are told that you would fit for this job because you’re female or male. There is also another issue in today’s society about abortion. This abortion ban, I think this is a really big problem in today’s world where a woman can’t do anything they won’t feel like they have the freedom its like they are taken away something that women depend on. If a woman decides to abort her child it’s her choice.

Nasser Ali – Discussion 8

I think that suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are all related as they are amendments fought for the purpose of giving women and working people the rights they deserve. They are also all related as when one was obtained, it paved the path for the others to be obtained as well. Labor rights are a gender-related issue as well because you can be discriminated against based on your gender, even regarding your work and labor. It’s no question about how poorly women have been treated in the workplace. This hasn’t only been true in the past, but it’s true today, especially in male-dominated workplaces. I’ve known many software engineers with an abundance of horror stories of their sexist experiences with their peers and their bosses. I feel that any male-dominated workplace is a nightmare for not just women, but anyone who isn’t a man.

I’tanisha Lewis/ Discussion #8

As women understand that we make up a vital part of the economic and social fabric that hold communities together, yet the work we do is rarely valued at the same level as in men’s work. Women are disproportionately likely to be poor, under- educated, employed in low-wage or unpaid work and subject to dismissal for getting married or having children. You’ll come to realize that in many industries, female workers are systematically denied their rights to regular pay and regular working hours.

Furthermore, some governments do little to combat gender discrimination at work and keep discriminatory labor laws on the books despite adopting guarantees of formal legal equality that might seem to conflict with those laws. In addition, women’s work promotes the well-being of families and children, even in two parent households. When governments make such distinctions among workers, they reinforce discriminatory social norms that undermine women’s position in the labor market and their access to economic security.

We’ve seen the difference that equal job opportunities, equal healthcare and education, equal decision-making power and freedom from violence can make. We’ve seen the difference when women are able to make their own choices and exercise their collective voice, and when institutions address their needs and interest. Why can’t women have a sense of belonging and feel empowered without being scrutinized for it? Were men and women really created equally? It seems one sided in my eyes. Achieving gender justice is not only a matter of basic rights. It’s also a key means of achieving fairer societies.

Sydney Maldonado – Discussion Board #8

Suffrage, labor rights, Suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are related to one another because they focus on one end goal above all their goals which is equality. Each three of these topics have turned into issues throughout history and even our current society today that all relate to one another because they want to create an environment that consists of fairness and the right to have rights no matter what age, race, ethnicity, or gender one may be. These topics are also all related to one another because they are about fighting for what is not only right but ethical and necessary for the world. Labor rights are also issues of gender justice because when we stand up, protest, and speak for others especially when it comes to fighting for fair and equal labor rights then we need to make sure to include and fight for all genders and not just a specific gender like women who may have more issues than another gender when it comes to the workplace like men. When we re-evaluate labor rights or workers rights they specifically focus on giving workers of all genders equal rights like the right to fair pay, the right to work overtime and get paid time and a half, the right to take unpaid leave, and more therefore, labor rights are also issues of gender justice because although labor rights are fighting for equal rights when it comes to working it still focuses on making sure all genders are included in the fight for change and to make sure that all these changes are included for everybody to receive. I see these historical issues enacted in today’s society because in certain career fields like broadcasting journalism, computer programming, or even being a pilot men still continue to get paid more than women despite their previous experiences, educational statuses, and accolades or achievements they may have received. This goes to show that women are still fighting for equal labor rights in our current society today and that the world is still biased when it comes to seeing men and women as equal beings who can achieve the same things despite their gender. Another way I see these historical issues enacted in todays society is the continued pressure of women working while maintaining the housewife and mother role; most people still see this as a challenge for women and feel as though they are better off repeating history as its always been with the mother being a stay at home mom and wife who caters only to the home, children, and husband without there being room for women to grow and flourish into their true selves instead of letting others limit them or conform them into a box they don’t belong in.

Discussion 8

I am a bit late with my post and I apologize,

First, I watched a video about the ash Building fire also known as the shirtwaist fire. This was known as the biggest deadly event in the of the United States before the 9/11 attacks. In the video they mentioned how the people in charge would exploit the women and girls to work for hours and hours without a break. They would even go as far as the lock emergency exits so that they would not sneak away and take breaks. Then as we know March 25, 1911, a great tragedy happened when a fire broke out and 146 young women and girls perished. It was later found that the building did not have a working sprinkler system. Protest broke out, 350,000 people (about half the population of Vermont) took the streets of NYC. This led to the making of the international Ladies Garment Workers Union. Which was made to protect working women. By 1938 there were no longer any sweat shops in the United States. 

Now the second video also was very emotional for me as well because it was the shirtwaist fire all over again. December 14th, 2010, in Bangladesh a fire broke out and 29 workers died and over 100 were injured. It was also known that the bosses of the factory in Dhaka would lock the doors during fires so that no one would steal them. The families were compensated with only 2,080 dollars, that is how much life is worth in a third world country. In Dhaka, the highest pay per hour is 28 cents an hour. The people of Dhaka protested for a raise of 35 cents an hour! And where met with imprisonment or battery. Companies like Walmart and Gap refused to pay. The people of Bangladesh are exploited and have no workers union protection. 

This leads me to the article about Virginia became the 38th state to pass the equal rights amendment, which consists of a proposed amendment to the US stating that one may not be denied based on one’s sex. This article explains the concerns and the positive possibilities of having an equal rights amendment. It would have no room for sliding back into the old ways.it would also give us some space for improvement. The article also explains how few people know about the US not ratifying the amendment and it is important that people become aware of this. This is a good step for the future of our working class 

Jessica Tapia Discussion 8

The equal rights movement the labor rights movement came about for a change. As women, we need to fully understand what the movements are about and how we can equally help each other make change happen. Then there was Phyllis Schlafly, who opposed the ERA movement because she described ERA as “an attack on the rights of a wife.” Schlafly was conflicted because she believed the ERA movement would threaten traditional gender roles. She also thought the movement would promote abortion, same-sex marriage, and the possibility of women being drafted into the military. Schlafly to me seemed to be a woman stuck in her old way and what she believed only. There was no thought of possibly looking at this amendment as a benefit for other women that have yet to see a change. The movement was for the reason to change to see it for women that believed there was more than just being a housewife a choice. In the end, she still campaigns for Trump, which tells you a story.

The labor rights movement, which was more of a gender issue, was placed for women exploited by factory owners who took advantage of these women who came to the country not knowing any English. These women endured grueling hours of labor. On March 11th, 1911, a fire broke out in the triangle shirtwaist factory. The fire killed 146 people, the highest death rate at the workplace before 9/11. There were preventable measures, but the factory owners did not look after their workers. After the deaths, there were protests held on 5th avenue, with about 350,00 protesters asking for safer work environments. The factor owners were indicted for manslaughter but later declared not guilty. The fire helped change the American industrial workplace and supported labor unions’ growth, especially the “International Ladies Garment Worker’s Union.” The union helped install sprinklers in the workspaces and pushed state and national workplace safety forward. Even after all of this, my mother worked as a seamstress in NYC around 34th street. In the early 80s, there was a lot of factory work. With this came many employers ready to exploit all immigrant women who needed to work to support themselves in an unfamiliar country. My mother worked long hours and barely made 50cents per garment and not to mention she was pregnant with my older brother. Employers don’t care; they need work done quickly and efficiently. Long hours not break and no raise. I remember my mom telling me she was terrified to ask for a raise because of the fear of being terminated. Equal rights, labor rights, should have been addressed a long time ago, but America loves its cheap labor so they can see their highest income gross. It’s despicable if you ask me. Women should encourage women to help fight for what is right, but sadly there will always be someone that doesn’t understand the entire picture.

Neil Marshall – Discussion 8

As industrialization grew, so did the work force, employing women in a way they hadn’t previously been. While women now composed a large portion of the work force, they were not able to vote or hold public office, preventing them from shaping policy or having the power to change the conditions of their labor. As women moved from what had been traditionally been gendered domestic labor into the industrial labor force, they were suddenly confronted with the disparities they had with men in the workforce. Especially as women took over men’s roles during the war, it was no longer possible to ignore that women were more than capable of being the equals of men. Women had previously been told that they didn’t have the disposition to make them capable of voting, but here they were proving they were the equals of men. If they were out performing the same roles as men, why did they not then have the same rights. Why did they not have equity in working conditions, pay, or upward mobility. Why did they not have the ability to shape the policy that shaped their life through their right to vote.

Labor rights are also issues of gender justice because because so frequently barriers for women’s progress are put forth. Ensuring equal pay is only a small part of it. Biased hiring and promotion practices frequently keep women form jobs or promotion. Access to childcare or paid maternity leave can hinder women’s ability to work as we still live in a world where childcare is most frequently delegated to women. Without ensuring that women have the same opportunities for success within the workplace we cannot say that we support women. Until we work to right these systemic oppressions in the workplace we will still be holding women back.

These issues continue to play out today in biased hiring criteria and practices. Equal pay is something we are working on, but as women continually are passed over for promotions we are regardless denying them the same earning potential. The pandemic has also made more evident the role of childcare in women’s labor rights. With responsibilities frequently falling to women to care for their children at home, mother’s were the ones struggling to maintain their ability to work. Frequently forced to choose between their jobs and the well-being of their children and family, a duty that is rarely faced by men.

Catherine Palacios Discussion #8

Labor rights and working conditions are issues that have been debated over a long amount of time. Although currently there are organizations in charge of protecting workers and assuring their rights we have come a long way to achieve that. Meanwhile in the United States, this is a topic taken very seriously, in other developing countries, that’s not the case. There are workers that earn much below the minimum wage of the United States. This week’s videos and reading discuss this a little bit further and how did the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire was an event that had a huge impact when it comes to labor laws and issues. The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire was a tragic event that took place on March 25th, 1911 in New York City. A fire in the building started, and the workers from the upper levels of the building had no way out. In the end, there were 146 dead people, and the majority of them were women. Because of incidents like this, where women are the negatively affected population, is why feminists were fighting for and still are fighting to this day. The lives of many women were taken away that day since the conditions they were working in were awful, the amount of hours they worked, and the small payment was completely inappropriate. Since we’re live in a patriarchal system and the government is ruled mostly by white privileged men, they mostly look for their well-being and not for the well-being of the minorities like the female working class. This means that there is no representation of the minorities in the government and the issues that matter to them, are mostly irrelevant for people holding the power. women having the right to vote means that at least they are available to choose who represents them, and address the issues that concern them in the government. The Equal Rights Amendment written by Alice Paul, National Women’s Party founder, aims for equality for everyone regarding their sex or gender. To date, 38 states have passed this amendment which is enough to consider it to be constitutional, even though 40 years have passed since the amendment was first passed by Congress and our society is more inclusive, making it constitutional could make a great difference. Labor rights are also gender issues since women are more likely to be negatively affected by them. History shows that the individuals who hold more financial power are men. Before, women were not allowed to work or study and therefore could not build wealth. Throughout time this changed, but women are more likely than men to belong to a working class. The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory incident brought attention to labor rights issues creating more unions and organizations focused on granting better working conditions for employees.

Miranda C. Discussion 8

  Suffrage, equal rights amendment, and labor rights are related because they all circle back to equality for all specifically women in some cases. Each stands alone but relatively leads back to the same desire for all. The equal rights amendment made it so women and men have gender equality amongst one another no matter the situation. The women’s suffrage movement is what led the change to voting and sparked the forward movement of labor rights for women. Gender justice is essentially equality for women in the work place allowing them to be viewed as equal rather than lesser. Without gender justice labor rights would not be carried out efficiently. These same historical issues are enacted today by not offering opportunities to people who transition into the opposite sex or identify differently, employers still viewing women as the lesser in jobs they assume a woman cannot do as if these laws do not exist. Women are still working double as hard as men to prove they are worthy of a promotion or raise. Years ago I applied for a warehouse job (2015) and while I did get interviewed it was very clear they had no interest in having a female do the work as if I was incapable. It was almost like a joke for them and even with these laws that say we are all equal that type of situation lets me know that although the laws say one thing there is definitely still a divide in looking at everyone equally regardless of their gender !!