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Discussion 8 | Topic & Instructions

This week, I’d like you to reflect on the history you have learned thus far in our history unit. Please consider the following questions:

  • How are suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights ammendment related?
  • How/why are labor rights also issues of gender justice?
  • How do you see these historical issues enacted in today’s society?

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kaitlyn Hernandez- discussion 8

Suffrage, labor, and the Amendment of the equal right are related because all three cover what women had to go through fighting for equal rights. In today’s society, women are still fighting to get what they deserve. Some women work so hard to get paid below minimum wage, having men steal from them without giving them credit.

Labor rights are the same as gender rights because they deal with fighting for what needs to be changed. For example, women in the work industry. Women have to work extra hard to get noticed by their bosses. Primarily if they work in a big building where men are in charge, men use women for their idea, and they will probably use them without giving any credit. Another example is how much money they pay women than the average man. Men have constantly sexualized women without even knowing it sometimes. . all they think about is what’s best for them.

Well, like I said, for equal rights. It will always be in our history, whether being in the present or the upcoming future. Everything is going to involve gender no matter you go. The most popular topic is dealing with jobs, which im pretty sure everyone knows. That is the number one topic where I feel it’s never going to change. These older men, especially those who like to do the old-fashioned way. Those types of men want to take advantage of them and use them. But overall, I think as the generation goes up. Society will start to notice the change and break the old fashion way. society is doing a little better than it did back in the olden day. So I feel like it doesn’t affect that much in today’s society.

Merichel Almonte, Discussion 8

I was watching several videos this week on the suffrage amendment, equal rights, and labor rights where I learned a lot.  For example, all of them are related to each other because they were concepts that were created due to the abuse that people were experiencing as they had no rights and as their word was worth nothing.  They wanted rights because they were trampled on and had no way to get ahead because they were seen as people with less value or rather worthless.  These movements helped people who lived under oppression, did not know how to get out of it and how they helped them feel more protected with each other.  On the other hand, the movement that would defend labor rights so that their workers have insurance, better attention and respect, allowed genders to be able to unions to defend themselves and be protected so as not to receive any mistreatment.  Similarly, the suffrage movement allowed women for the first time to be heard, that their voice would count and men respect it.  In the video they mention that most of the employees are women, because they are exploited more, pay less and do not give them help.  On the other hand, thinking about those times and today, I think we have made a lot of progress regarding our rights because now a worker is even given medical insurance and has to be treated with respect because it is his right.  Instead, now women have more power and rights, they can have their businesses, be independent without having a man by their side and without having to be a slave to a job to eat.  But this does not mean to say that it has already come to an end, no, but many things have improved.

IMANE CHAABA

DISCUSSION 8

Suffrage, labor rights, and equal rights exist to fight for women’s rights in society. For years women were treated poorly by their environment, society, and people who run their workplace. Women at that time did not have the right to vote and have zero insurance. After decades of the lengthy, road of struggle and protest, the 19th amendment was ratified on August 18, 1920. This purpose was very hard to achieve and the campaign for woman suffrage was very dramatic because, after ratification, many women were couldn’t vote because of the discriminatory state voting laws. The courage and resilience that these women had were unbelievable. Women deserve all the rights and responsibilities of citizenship as men do. We must normalize equality and freedom. Women in society need to have more power, influence, and work opportunities. After all, women still face issues in the workplace. Years ago, there was no such thing as protecting the workplace. The Triangle Shirtwaist fire tragedy was a great example of that. Hundreds of women were working very hard with no protection plan. They were taken advantage of and mistreated by the building owners. It was one of the deadliest in U.S history and the country had to do something about it. After losing hundreds of hard worker women, we finally came up with a plan such as the Sullivan-Hoey Fire Prevention law which required factory owners to install sprinkler systems. The fire helped the growth of the International ladies garment Workers’Union which was made to create better working conditions for sweatshop workers.

The proposed amendment ERA could be such a game-changer for women in society but it is still not ratified in most states. Women created this example of rights to stop discrimination and gender preferences. They were fighting for equality in divorce, employment, education, and property. Society still needs adjustment because after the achievements women did, there are still issues with gender equality in the workplace. As was stated by Tara Law in her article: Virginia Just Became the 38th State to Pass the Equal Rights Amendment. Here’s What to Know About the History of the ERA”:

“I think there’s been a more widespread understanding among both women and men
that we have not truly established equality in our culture,” she says, “and the laws that
we have enacted are not sufficient to protect against sex discrimination in all avenues.” We still need to fight for women’s rights because we haven’t become a hundred percent equal society yet.

Heylee Soto

Discussion bored

The suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are similar because, Between the suffrage movement and the women’s liberation movement, the paramount feminist issue was the Equal Rights Amendment. It was first proposed in 1921 by Alice Paul who had decided that the next step was the removal of all legal discrimination against women and that the most efficient way to do this was with another federal amendment. The ERA was aimed at the plethora of state laws and common law rules that restricted women’s jury service; limited their rights to control their own property, these movements had a lot to do with suffering in order for their voices to be heard. each of these movements has something similar. That was that they were protecting or giving rights to those who felt oppressed. The suffrage movement gave women the opportunity for men to hear them out.

Aleah Alamo – Discussion 8

Suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are all related to fighting for equality and justice. The videos this week focused on labor rights. In the past there were no labor rights, people worked in poor conditions for very little pay and employers did nothing to ensure worker’s safety or well-being. Employers befitted from mistreating and underpaying their workers. The video about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire is a good representation of the need for labor rights. The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire caused many worker deaths and served as a breaking point. The corruption and neglectfulness of employers caused these deaths; if there had been safety precautions in place, the workers could have escaped the fire or the fire could have been prevented all together. This week’s reading focused on suffrage and the equal rights amendment. Women and other oppressed groups had to fight to the right to vote and to have equal rights. Even to this day, the fight for equal rights is ongoing. Women had to fight to have a voice in political matters. Bing politically involved is important for women because they have been oppressed by the patriarchal political system. The equal rights amendment would protect women’s rights and ensure they could not be denied based on sex. Each of these subjects are, at its core, oppressed and underprivileged people fighting for their deserved rights in this hierarchical society.  

Labor rights are also issues of gender justice because women are denied jobs and/or equal respect and pay in the workplace. Women could be just as or even more qualified for a job than a man but would be denied because of their sex. Or if given the job, she would be paid less than her male coworkers. Women are often seen as less than, needed to be supported by a man, and/or not as capable as men. This hinders women’s success and chance for opportunity. Which is why labor rights and the ERA are so necessary to protect women. 

These historical issues are enacted in today’s society by having labor rights and unions that set standard working conditions and protect worker’s rights. The same goes for suffrage and the equal rights amendment. Women are gaining more say in politics and as the reading explained, we are closer to the ERA passing and being approved to be in the constitution. However, while progress has been made, there is still more to be done. The ERA has not been ratified after decades of effort and protest, there is still corrupt corporations that abuse workers, and there is still not class and gender equality. These are issues still being protested and fought against in today’s society and it is unknown what amount of suffering or activism will make the necessary changes.  

Kayla Santel Discussion

Suffrage, labor rights, and the equal rights amendment are all related through women’s experiences in history. Women had to fight to gain suffrage, which wasn’t granted to them until 1920, which is only about a hundred years ago. With the issue of labor rights, it ties into the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, because of that horrific industrial tragedy it served as a reminder that the working laws needed to be changed. It greatly contributed to the beginnings of the International Ladies Garment Workers’ Union, as well as passing the “Sullivan-Hoey fire prevention law, which required sprinkler systems to be installed in all factories. It served as a model for state and national work place safety codes” (The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire). Labor rights are also issues of gender justice because it ties into wages, which can be related to the wage gap that has been present between men and women for years and slowly decreased but not fully eradicated yet. Also, for a long time women were not seen as equal in the workplace, or even allowed to work the same jobs a man could work, but it also ties into the safety of those jobs. “Working women at the time were focused on gaining workplace protections for women and children” (Law 2). The equal rights amendment has to do with women because it involves both genders and how they’re treated differently in society but should be treated the same and without discrimination. All three of these topics are linked to one another through the struggle women have been put through in history to allow other women of the future to experience these things. After watching the Triangle Returns video, I was shocked to find out that even in today’s world labor rights are not upheld the same everywhere around the world. While I was already aware of sweatshops existing and child labor, for some reason these issues feel outdated but they’re very much real and present. So being reminded of that after watching the video really snapped me back to reality in a sense. I think the goal of suffrage has been achieved in today’s society already but equal rights still have a long way to go since it’s such a deeply tangled concept with a lot of history behind it.

Disucssion 8

This week’s topic we have a discussion about equal rights amendment, Suffrage, labor rights and how they correlate. The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire is one of the first videos I watched talking about a horrible catastrophe that took place March 25, 1911. A fire broke out on the top floors of the Triangle Shirtwaist factory. The workers were Trapped inside the fire with basically no exits to leave the building in numerous ways, workers jumped to their deaths. 146 people died from this event. Although this was the early 1900, How could the owner or whoever is in charge not at least have a plan in case a fire happens or any emergency. Exits shouldn’t have been locked, why was the water hose rusted shut, why didn’t elevators work. That is due to the negligence of the workers’ safety. This was a critical event in the history of the U.S. labor movement, the New Deal, the development of occupational safety and health standards, and the New York City Fire Department. It was sad to find out the owner wasn’t punished for the loss of all these people. 

The second video really explains how little has changed in the global sweatshop economy. Workers are again trapped in a bad work environment and choosing to jump out windows before burning. A Segment of the video that stood out to me the most was workers’ protest in Bangladesh. The sweatshop workers in Bangladesh are really underpaid so the workers stood up and asked for a 10-cent raise… To basically get 35 cents an hour  from big companies that they are making clothes for like Gap and Walmart who sell the clothes they make for 20$ and more. The sweatshop workers have long laborious hours making important essentials that US kids and adults wear and  to get almost nothing back in return. I believe these companies have enough to give these people so much more. The Bangladesh deserve to get more than cents. To see police officers and officials try and hurt protesters with rubber bullets and etc. isn’t right.

Further on we talk about the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) it is an amendment the U.S passed to grant equal and legal rights for all American citizens regardless of sex.  A couple years after the ratification of the 19th amendment. Towards the end of article given to use to read They explain how Era affects women’s right. It seems like it helps and makes things somewhat fair. This can help women in terms of divorce, property, employment, and sex discrimination. This isn’t something available everywhere. But should be, places like Virginia became the 38th state to vote to try and ratify the Equal Rights Amendment. There can be more only if people decide to stand up and the government is mindful of Rights 

Dylan Dong Discussion 8

Suffrage, labor rights and the equal rights amendment are all related because their goals are on gaining rights for an exploited group and preventing the exploitation of those groups. These and other labor rights issues are also a matter of gender justice, because every group includes people of all genders. Also, it is mostly women who are being exploited when it comes to things like sweatshops and labor rights. Teen and child workers are also very common. Similar to the Triangle Waistshirt Factory story, hours are excessive, conditions are very dangerous and wages are very low. How much has this changed? On the surface we act like we are morally better because we have laws against child labor here in the U.S. now, but all we really have been doing is outsourcing as a loophole, to continue to exploit cheap labor “legally.

The “Triangle Returns” video talked about a workers protest in Bangladesh (working for companies like Walmart and Gap) Their workers’ non-violent protest over wages was quickly hit with a wave of police brutality. The workers were beaten, hit with rubber bullets, sprayed with water, etc. This made me think of all the anti-facists marches happening the last few years, and the police would come out and do the same to the protestors. The c0ps will never stop doing that. They don’t serve us, they only serve the ones in power aka the Oppressors.

I think issues continue to play out similarly today. There will always be a group against the activist group/movement. During the time of the introduction of the ERA, anti-feminist Phyllis Schlafly founded the organization “STOP ERA” (an acronym for “Stop Taking Away Our Privileges”) to oppose the Equal Rights Amendment. Her belief was that an equal rights movement was somehow stripping her and other women of their free will and rights, I find this mindset that “giving one group rights takes away from the other” remains common today. An example I have in our current political climate is that some people think that the statement “Black Lives Matter” means that white lives don’t matter. They interpret the statement as Black people think they are more important than white people, when the true intent is a call for black lives to be treated the same as white lives, especially in legal situations.
Schafly also was said to have, “[told] her audiences that the ERA would eventually lead to a future of gender-neutral bathrooms and women being drafted into the military, she successfully made many people think twice about what constitutionally mandated equality of the sexes would mean.” It’s funny to know that that is kind of right where we are at today, but it’s not as horrifically astounding earth-shattering as she played it out to be with her fear mongering

Discussion 8

There have been so many unfortunate incidences that has occurred in the United States of America, however, the event of the triangle shirtwaist factory deeply affected so many lives. This happened during the early 20th Century. This happened during a time when work conditions were over strict. In a clothing factory, where over a hundred people worked and mostly young immigrants, with a bare minimum pay rate that could not really hold up their living expenses. Working for countless hours, in a very hot and bad environments for humans. They could not take break after working for hours, they would be locked inside the factories with no food or water. During those times, and even now having rights in the workplace was like asking for gold, it was considered too much and, in some cases, even disrespectful. This and many more factors contributed to the undisputable fire outbreak that cause the beginning of a new movement and end many young lives. The Factory had a back door, but it was said that supervisors locked the doors to prevent unnecessary breaks and also to prevent “theft”. When the fire built up, there were no sensors to make it known that there was danger, no sprinklers to reduce the severity of the danger before them. So, when the disaster happened, the women had no way of escaping, they could not just jump because their factory and department was stories high. In that sense, many women ended getting consumed by the fire. Indeed, others ended up jumping because they wanted their families and loved ones to at least have their bodies to bury. It was rumored that on-lookers who were unsure of what was happening thought a pile of clothes were falling but were densely petrified when they realized they were people who were dropping down from the building. This occurrence sparked a lot of anger amongst the public, which then proceeded into series of protest. The people were furious, and they had enough of the cruel working conditions and outrageous setting that ended so many lives. They marched and tussled till their voices were heard. They reformed the amendments for good wages and for less harsh treatments at their jobs. 

However, almost a century later, a similar case ensured in Bangladesh, a country located in the Eastern part of Asia. It was like the perfect reincarnation of the Triangle Shirtwaist incidence. Again, workers were locked up and not paid well, again the factory was on fire and again people jumped from the long feet building, so their families and loved ones would have their bodies to bury.  

Orvana Williams Discussion 8

Women more than half the time, have been marginalized throughout history. They were not treated fairly and lacked a number of rights. Prior to the late twentieth century, women did not have equal educational rights and were considered outliers while seeking an education or a career. Following the Suffrage Movement, the Nineteenth Amendment granted women the right to vote in the 1920s. After a long period of time, women in the 1960s believed that the first feminist movement had not been successful enough, and they launched a second wave of feminist groups calling for more workplace equality and abortion rights. Despite the passage of time, women continue to demonstrate for their right to control their own bodies and equal pay. Alongside the fact that the Women’s March Movement was inspired by the 1960s women’s rights movement, there are numerous contrasts in terms of diversity, women’s image, and aspirations.

Being that women were regarded as a reproductive organism rather than a human for many centuries. Because of their physical power and style of thinking, men were thought to be superior. Women, too, could think and be physically strong. Even if they were unhappy, women were expected to have children and obey their husbands. A simpler example that often comes into mind when actually taking into account women’s inequality and suffrage, would be embedded concepts of marriage and thoughts surrounding it. Society and men saw unmarried women as failures, they never inquired as to how married women felt. During the 1960s, married women were dissatisfied that they did not have the same social independence as their husbands. They wanted to work in the same fields as their husband and contribute to his income. Women were relegated to the status of reproductive machines rather than human beings by society. Women became connected and united as a result of their grievances.

Apart from the significant progress made by women and the existence of international standards and legal duties prohibiting discrimination, widespread gender disparity remains entrenched in global labor markets. The international labor law system, which was originally focused on a male concept of “standard” employment, is increasingly developing to include provisions for the protection of women’s work. This involves tackling the change to a new “feminized” global economy, in which women’s occupations are often precarious, poor, and low-wage, many women have no formal work at all, and women continue to face the various burdens of family and community responsibilities which can be very unmotivating at times but said circumstance don’t actually allow woman to move in an unmotivated matter because of the importance of each situation.